Kightly set for crunch Wolves talks

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Michael Kightly has admitted for the first time that there are problems to be sorted out with Wolves in a summer of speculation about his future.

The 22-year-old England under-21 winger has become the subject of relentless speculation, naming him as a transfer target for a cluster of Premier League clubs.

Wolves chief executive Jez Moxey has swiftly dismissed stories claiming Blackburn, Everton, West Ham and Middlesbrough are knocking on the doors of Molineux for Kightly’s services.

An increasingly-angry chairman and owner Steve Morgan, more determined than ever to hold together the top young players at the club, underlined his “not for sale” policy to Moxey in a telephone conversation at the weekend.

But Kightly says there are issues to be resolved before the new season begins, in a response which will send a shudder down the spine of Wolves fans.

He said: “My agent is going to have a meeting with Jez in a couple of weeks. There are a few things we are not happy about. Hopefully, after that meeting, they can be sorted.”

Kightly is refusing to go into detail about the precise nature of what is unsettling him, in a close season of steadily-growing pressure on Morgan and Moxey to fend off overtures from top-flight clubs.

With Middlesbrough believed to be particularly keen, the most obvious conclusion is the player’s dissatisfaction at the terms of the new four-year deal he agreed last season.

They are sure to be way below what would be on offer from the Premier League and his agent Robert Segal is likely to want that at the top of the agenda.

Kightly has already proved one of the best signings of recent times by Wolves, after his rise from non-League football at Grays.

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244 Comments

  1. wolf306 said:

    Bloody agents should be hung drawn and quartered

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  2. G&B said:

    Typical agents………

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  3. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    All I’m saying is. If Albion can get 10mill for Davies, we should not let Kites go for anything less, why do we need the money? I’m not making out we’re massively rich but we need good players not to cash in on them.

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  4. Greg Cooper said:

    If he wants to stay, then he will stay. If he doesn’t want to stay, then we will sell him for a large amount of money and Lewis Gobern will take his place.

    No shudder down my spine, that’s for sure.. just the E&S trying to stir up more trouble, making a ’story’ out of very little.

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  5. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    I really want Kights to stay but in today’s market loyalty is hard to come by, ah well I hope he decides to stay put.

    Come on Kights your place is at Wolves.

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  6. S*U*P*E*R said:

    Christ! Maybe he wants some sort of buy out clause? My guess would be that we have an asking price of something ridicluous like £10m, or a gentlemans agreement (much like Lescott’s) that he thinks won’t be upheld.

    It’s squeaky bum time!

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  7. sun shine said:

    anyone offers £4m or more can have him we payed about £150k for him so it would be good business. i wouldnt let him mess us about, he is turning into a big time charlie, we will have very little (or no) impact in the premier league

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  8. Eddie Wolf said:

    You could have written the script! I knew that something concerning Kightly’s dissatisfaction at something would be a factor. I hope to God he stays, but saying that, I’m not sure this article truly backs that arguement up!

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  9. southbank barmy army said:

    SOD OFF TRAITOR!!! LIKE CAMARA, MILLER AND THE OTHER SCUM WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT AN HONOUR IT IS TO WEAR THE SHIRT.

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  10. Jon Finlan said:

    Quality player and we need him to stay and build a team round him.But if he dosent want to stay them theres not alot the club can do.Just another example of there being no loyalty in football

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  11. laughingwolf said:

    He has signed a 4 year deal and sent the majority of this season injured. He cannot expect a payrise after hardly playing, if he does want out we dont want him, but we mustn’t let him go for less than 6 mil or let him rot in the reserves, if he just wants his contract tweaked for more money if we get promoted then fine but he must make more appearances, i hope he’s not getting too big for his boots, don’t forget if it wasnt for us he could still be at greys

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  12. Ragster said:

    I don’t think he is a loyal now as may be a year ago - reason being… The way mick has treated his mate Freddy Eastwood!

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  13. wolfhound said:

    Well despite Moxleys and Morgans strong denial there appears to be some truth in what the Grays Chairman has said.I wondered why they were so keen on signing Lafferty looks like he is going to be offered to Wolves fans as a replacement for Kites, Youve got to say hes nowhere near the quality of Kites.

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  14. Gornal Wolves said:

    Steve, Jez, you have to hold on to Kite’s. He will be a major factor in Wolves gaining promotion to the promised land next season. Sort out his issues and up his wages if you have to, just don’t loose another potential star.

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  15. Steve bull stand said:

    The Moxey way of running Wolves has been sold to the supporters as building the club around young and hungry players. The alternative way of describing this is that we are looking for good players on the cheap. Players signed from Grays, Scunthorpe and Luton will not be on great wages.
    The flaw in building the team up this way and promising jam tomorrow is that when the players do well and Premier League Clubs take an interest, the wages on offer are much more than Wolves are paying nowadays.
    I suspect despite Morgan’s wishes that some of our better players will move on, and the three year plan under McCarthy and Moxey will have to start all over again.
    Building for tomorrow is a dangerous policy in this game because as people who have been following Wolves for many years will tell you - tomorrow never comes.

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  16. wanderer89 said:

    Noooo, Kites don’t go, you won’t be playing 1st team football, stay at the club for 1 more year & if we don’t get promotion then feel free to leave, but just stay for 1 more season.

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  17. James Wolf said:

    He’s a great player there is no doubt but a bit prone to injury it would seem. He should honour his contract for another season, if he proves to be fit for long spells and on form then he deserves to be one of the clubs top earners, but I dont think he’s proved himself yet.

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  18. SouthBankBully_UK said:

    As a high profile manager myself, I can only emphasize that keeping players happy is all that counts. I treat mine like thoroughbreds, and therefore they play accordingly. Wolves should break the bank to keep him. If he’s insitent on leaving he can always come and play for the Mixres!

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  19. RC said:

    Well if you agreed to certain terms last season and they are no longer good enough, then bugger off! No player is bigger than any club.

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  20. muppetout said:

    hang on a moment, this upper class conference player is under contract end of. He aint no steve bull. Sounds to me he starting to get greedy ££££

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  21. Jolemai said:

    Fantastic.

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  22. tommo said:

    Here we go

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  23. deeps said:

    sounds like knightly wants more cash…. GIVE IT TO HIM! he could earn a lot more in the prem, so we need to make him a reasonable offer to stay… regardless of what players say, its all about the cash…(except old bully!), so we have to get real.. time to change the wage structure..

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  24. goldandblack said:

    Whats changed in a season Kites, Mr Agent wants more dollar i conclude. If you dont want to play for us (sad situation given our backing to you) then we,ll take the dosh and move on, dont let him unsettle our wage structure Jez…..
    C,mon me babbiees……..

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  25. Zoff2304 said:

    So now there are things Kightly is not happy with. A couple of weeks ago he said he was happy with everything at Wolves. This does not look good, and if its about money will Wolves break their wage structure to keep him?

    We’ll see. If he goes I reckon Hennessey will be next followed by SEB…….hope I’m wrong.

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  26. NathanWolves said:

    I knew this was going to happen after his comments on Soccer AM.
    I don’ think this is his agent I thinks it’s Kightly getting too big for his boots. Keep him and let him rot in the reserves!!!!

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  27. G&B said:

    12.
    Freddy and Kites are not that close at all so that has no bearing on the situation.
    Its down to money and security on his future.
    And i would not be suprised if this “quote” was taken out of context or completely false.

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  28. AAA said:

    If he wants to go let him go. No point keeping players who dont want to stop it just unsettles the other who do want to stay. All players are replacable.

    We need unity this season - not rifts and rows like last season.

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  29. brummie rob wolves said:

    What did I say yesterday. It’s all well and good the fat controller getting into his defensive mode but ultimately it’s up to the player. Look at the Ronaldo situation.
    Hopefully he will stay but it’s not the end of our promotion prospects, if the worse happened. Gobern should be back and we are linked with Hamill from Liverpool. Another thing we need to keep an I on is that we are linked with Westwood - the Carlisle goalkeeper. If true, I would have thought Hennessey or Murray could go.

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  30. Wolvensam said:

    Greedy little sod, get yourself fit and then maybe we can talk about a new contract!

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  31. Phil from Tipton said:

    Has his head been turned or is his head just getting bigger. A problem we don’t want. So Kightly remember where we got ya from and if you wanna play with the big boys, act it………..

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  32. pye green wolf said:

    another prima donna one minute stating he wants to play for wolves in the premiership the next his head being turned by intrest from average top flight clubs. not happy with his 4 year contract he only signed 8 months ago. he wants to remember he played 20 odd games last year and did very little to help our push to the prem. another reason mad mick should look at our own young talent they really want to play for wolves. !!!!!!

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  33. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    9. Calm down…Crikey

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  34. Grogphil said:

    Kites you are not premier class yet stay and improve playing every game not one every couple of months for a struggling premiership side.
    Or is MMMMoooooooNNNNNNNNNNeeeeeeeeeey!!!!!!

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  35. Sandwell massive?? said:

    He will stay, he has time on his side and he owes Wolves/Mick another season after finding him and giving him the opportunities he was only dreaming about two years ago.

    If his agent turns his head and he does one then fine, he will be remembered for all the wrong reasons by alot of fans.

    One more season Kites then noone would blame ya for moving on.

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  36. Wolf Wolf said:

    Very dissapointed in him, i thought he was a level headed youngester aswell. Sad what a bit of money can do.

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  37. cward said:

    What a disgrace! This player was earing naff all 2 years ago playing for a conference team!! He was nothing! wolves have changed his life, turned him into premiership quality and an u21 england international!!! absolutely disgusting they way hes treating us after all we have done for him!!!

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  38. DINGLE TIL 1 DIE said:

    OFF U GO THEN KITES

    DONT WANT HIM IF HE’S GONNA BE LIKE THAT!

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  39. E11 Wolf said:

    Kites agent is just doing his job and Kites has a responsibility to get the best possible deal for him and his future. This would not have happened if Mick had not played him towards the end of last season. I said at the time that it was like putting him in the shop window.

    The premiership clubs can probably double his wage so to all the fans who criticise his loyalty - how many of you would turn down the chance to increase your pay to such an extent.

    We are going to lose him unless we pay him the wages and then we will be in danger of the other players wanting a ‘piece of that action’. Moxey has got to realise that if we get premier quality players we have to pay the premier price.

    We should never have played him.

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  40. Redge999 said:

    His agent is waving pound signs at him.

    Look lets sort agents out in football aswell as the 6-5 debate.

    agents are a disgrace they just see there 10%.

    Kites i think you owe this football club some loyalty, we gave you the opportunity! you have not as yet completed a full season, if you had we would have made the play offs. One more full season will give you good experience, and hopefully a place in the prem. Kites you are better of being a big fish in a little pond than sitting on the bench at a bigger club.

    Agents should realise that are playing with players careers. Kites could go to a bigger club and never make it and waste 3 years of his career, look at the winger spurs bought from palace who is now at villa, wot a waste.

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  41. drayton wolf said:

    if he wants to go let him. he won’t be the same player for wolves if his heart is on a move to a premiership club.Think it will be a step too soon for him & he’d be better staying in the championship for another season.
    He obviously thinks he ’s to good for wolves now so i say let him go.

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  42. manchesterwolf said:

    if they want to go you cant stop them. if he does good riddance, i would rather have someone of less ability who wanted the shirt. lets not forget he is just a cockney who will feel no real allegiance to the gold and black.

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  43. briget& tonely said:

    if Kightly goes i will say he was trash anyroad.

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  44. shatpankwolves said:

    not happy kites??? sod off then, been here and done this with players in the past, if your not happy LEAVE!!! wouldnt mind but we aint had a full season out the lad yet!!! get a nice fee for him, buy ledley from cardiff and put jarvis on right (he actually right footed) sorted!!!

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  45. Furious!! said:

    Greedy sod has shot himself in the foot. Get a new agent and while your at it a reality check. Da Da Da Da Greedy *******!!!

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  46. we8wba said:

    i think as much as it hindered us last season

    kightly injury will keep him here another season. if he played all last season he would be gone by now

    simply offer him new deal and say if we not promoted we will sell you to prem side for xxx amount of money if they offer that upfront if no one does you stay

    simple

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  47. Colley Gate Wolf said:

    At the end of the day we own him for the next for seasons and we can do what we want. If Moprgan is as hardnosed in this business as he is in the construction industry Kightly will rot in the reserves unless a premiership asking price is met and we know that for a quality english player you’re looking just short of double figures. Some say break the wage structure but when that happens SEB’s agent and Hennesseys agent will be knocking on Moxeys door with ‘issues’ that the players have. This summer could get very messy if not handled correctly i.e firmly putting the player in his place. Fergie put Beckham in his place so Mcmuppet should be able to keep our lot under control

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  48. Swedewolf Bró said:

    His agent wants more money. That’s whats happening. At first he will present what he could get if he moves. If the player does not want to move the agent wants the player to get a better deal at the present club. The more the player gets the more the agent gets. Simple mathematics. Kites is no trator. He is in the hands of a greedy agent.

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  49. raffo said:

    well wat a suorise NOT REALLY,players are just money grabbing **** if i could say it i wud,i mean weres the loyalty gone man we made this player if it was not for us u would still be in conference just remember that kites,u have really let me down,disgrace

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  50. we8wba said:

    end day also we bought him for what 100k sell him for 4m+

    good deal in my eyes

    sign wayne routledge of the villa for 2m as replacement

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  51. south bank faithful! said:

    Cant blame him…look at the way Freddie was treated.I’D leave rather than play for Muppet Mick.

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  52. Tight Sandwell Town said:

    9..
    South Bank is a Sandwell fan beware…

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  53. Laura wolves said:

    Why did he sign the contract if he wasn’t happy with the terms, lets make a stance like the Glazers over Ronaldo and tell him he can watch the games for the next 2 years in the stands. But i don’t think this is Kightly talking i think its his agent filling his head with £££ SIGNS.

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  54. RC said:

    Sandwell Massive, i wish i could agree with you. The reality is now he is believing his own hype and thats down to the agent. If we can’t give him what he wants and it will break the bank to keep him, we should sell but only on our terms and banish him to the reserves until we get what we can for him. As good a player as he is, he ain’t bigger than our club.

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  55. Glorybox said:

    Steve Bull Stand….spot on; i honestly believe the whole approach is more about earning as much by reselling these young players as using them to get to the premier

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  56. nige wolf said:

    agents, remember henri camara?? filling players heads with “look, so and so and so and so want you, you will get x amount there, get in and hold wolves to ransom” yes, he is a great asset to us, but i am a firm believer of loyalty, where would he be without MM’s scouting? I didnt see a bidding war when we bought him from grays !! so he wouldve probably still been there. Put your agent back in his box kites and show a bit of loyalty to those guys who idolise you week in week out, yes??

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  57. Greg Cooper said:

    I find it amazing that some posters are taking this as gospel and are immediately hanging Kites out to dry on the strength of one weak article printed on the E&S website! Why not wait until you hear the actual FACTS before crucifying the kid? Just because the local paper speculates does not mean that it is truth y’know… as I mentioned in my last posting, if he does actually want to leave then we will deal with it then. Until he comes out and says as much, then no-one should really criticise.

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  58. northern wolf said:

    Paper talk - RUBBISH !!! did he really get off a sun lounger on his holiday to say this to someone? or did the reporter who is pressured to fill space in a newspaper make it up???

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  59. wolveswolves said:

    This is no suprise and the blame falls entirely on Mick’s inability to gain promotion.

    If Kites does go and its far from certain you can be assured that SEB and Wayne will think again.

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  60. Eddie Wolf said:

    E11 Wolf:

    But we had to play him…we had a promotion charge of our own.

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  61. SouthBank Genius said:

    Re 39: Good call. I also think we should drop SEB from first team duty in case he scores too many goals and other teams want him.

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  62. untitled said:

    ok es a good player, but im not overly concerned if he does go, i garuantee we coudl buy someone like halmosi for a quater of what we get for kites. i agree though, with todays football prices i wouldnt sell for less than 8m

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  63. mark andrews said:

    the only way to stop all of this is to distribute the Premier’s TV money more equally across the divisions. The Premier should never have broken off from the Football League in the first place 16 years ago. Wages should be cut in the Premier and ticket prices should also be cut. This requires government intervention. The role of football agents should be diminished and it could be argued that there shouldn’t be any in the first place. When did they come into the game, does anybody know? We should not break wage structures as it is the thin end of the wedge. The structure of football is based o n business and greed and it would be in everybody’s interest, including these rich overpaid footballers themselves, to change it. Paying people such huge salaries can only have a negative effect on the way they see themselves and it makes sure that they are separated off from the vast majority of fans who support them. I’d like you to stay Kites but if you go I’m not surprised. The question is whether there are values at Wolverhampton Wanderers for you that go beyond the lure of money. Do you like it here? have you got mates here? Do you like the way the club is run? Do you agree with Mick on the most important things? If you can’t answer yes to three of these questions, it’s best to go!

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  64. Cornish Wolf said:

    Agents and money. The ruination of our beautiful game in equal measure.
    Up The Wolves

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  65. wbabomber said:

    Why would you raise issues with a contract you signed twelve months ago????
    It is articles and situations like these that further supports the modern day feeling that fans and players live in different worlds, if only we got back the same amount of support we give them hey!!!

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  66. wolvesonandon said:

    4)you are spot on - no shudder down the spine stuff in this article. Who do these guys (E&S) think they are. Do they believe all football fans are stupid or don’t understand that football is all about business now. Kights will no doubt go for better wages and the chance to play at the heighest level- good luck to him!. A long as we get good money for the lad, then great. We find suitable replacements and move on- that’s life! Andy Gray did not hang around that long ad he was quality!

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  67. untitled said:

    ofcourse we could always do a west brom and refuse to let him leave or play him, it worked for koumas! and they sold him on at a rediculous fee.

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  68. Daz said:

    what can probs be that we took him out of non-league footy, that we stood by him in a season where he hasnt played that much cause of injury.

    this time guys its not just the agent this is deffo the player and he really needs to think about things cause he aint making himself popular with this sort of thing

    and does he really think he is going to play week in week out in the prem or is he just gonna be a squad player, i think the answer is obvious.

    so all it comes down to is money once again, what ever happened to the likes of steve bull who stayed for the love of the club when offered the big time

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  69. Filtonwolf (Bristol) said:

    Much as I hate to say it…. if we want to keep him, and I honestly think he wants to stay, then we’re gonna have to apy the going rate. It is laudable what Moxey has done, he’s kept the club solvent but at what price. As i’ve said in other postings, money is the bane of this sport but if we want to run with the pack we have to be prepared to change our ways. I’m not advocating a free for all on wages but I think that players have to realise that some are better than others and therefore worth more. God it pains me to say this but if we want a premiership side we’re gonna have to acting like one with all the financial burden that entails. Mr Morgan we need your millions. Now is the time to tand up and be counted

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  70. Weston Wolf said:

    To be honest these comments (if true) are no real surprise.

    A footballer’s career is a comparatively short one and only the foolish would be prepared to settle for terms that could be improved elsewhere. I have little doubt that if the average supporter sitting in the stands was offered the chance of maybe doubling their salary then they would be unlikely to be quite so self-righteous as some on this site are appearing to be today.

    Michael Kightly could have been a Premiership footballer next season if he had of retained his fitness all last season and the correct tactics and formations had been in place throughout the season.

    I suspect there are also family ties that would encourage him to think about a move to a Premiership team in the South and West Ham (comparatively close to Grays) could be a very tempting proposition to him.

    I would hope that next season he will be flying on our wings and one of the driving forces behind a renewed Premiership bid, but if this report is correct then there must be serious doubts as to whether we will ever see him in a Wolves shirt again.

    Messrs Moxey and Morgan are unlikely to change their wage policy as this would open the floodgates to other player’s demands which could come very quickly afterwards. Wayne Hennessy for instance is now mixing with the likes of Craig Bellamy at International level whose salary, if discussed, would be sure to raise any young man’s eyebrows. I am equally sure that Michael Kightly has been influenced by stories he may have heard about on his U21 exploits.

    A difficult decision for Messrs Moxey and Morgan to diffuse this situation I feel.

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  71. Eddie Wolf said:

    59 wolveswolves:

    God, the weather is atrocious. I suppose that is Mick’s fault too. You cant KEEP blaming the guy! If Kites wants to go (which has not actually been said or written), how can it be Micks fault?

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  72. stewart said:

    65
    if only bomber………….

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  73. Notts Wolf said:

    If he goes he goes BUT on Wolves terms and not on his or his agent’s.
    We do not need the cash so if any Prem. club do want to sign him they will have to find big money.
    End of….

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  74. wolfie2468 said:

    very good player but i don’t believe any one player should be priority over the whole team. If he wants to go then so be it. I’d like him to stay but he’s not bigger than the team. You can have 11 good individuals but not the best team. Stoke proved that. Don’t worry ! ! UP THE WOLVES ! !

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  75. wolfmadgaz said:

    kightly is getting to me now a couple of months ago he said he still owes MM and the fans alot. which he does stuck by him through his injuries we gave him the chance from non league football, but he still repaid us yet. He brings up issues on his contract which he signed 12 months ago??… no loyalty in the game anymore…

    can someone please tell me why footballers need agents am they that thick they can’t make up their own minds?? i don’t think bully has an agent did he, if he did the agent must of been been the poorest agent in the world, because he knows loyalty.

    if you want to go mate then go we are wolves no player is bigger than us!!

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  76. keith wolf said:

    If its about money i think he is wrong & greedy, but if he thinks MM can`t improve his career and make him a better player i think he has got a point.

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  77. red steve said:

    oh dear..he,ll never leave the mighty wolves lmao

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  78. spuddy said:

    too big for his boots? maybe….

    but if any one of us was offered loads more cash to work at a much better company we would be off like a shot so lets be realistic

    it worries me that we are after so many forwards, makes me wonder if SEB is going too - we could lose eastwood, wayne, kites and SEB which are probably the best 4 players at the club, olofinjana could go too but hey!

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  79. briget& tonely said:

    I changed my job for 4pence more per weeks wages back in 1949.

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  80. Prawn Sandwich said:

    All these holier than thou loyal supporters. If you were offered three or four times your salary, how fast would you be running to your new job?

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  81. brummie rob wolves said:

    We nearly got in the play offs last season - without Kites for most of the season, playing not very good football in a very average league with no outstanding teams. We are making our intentions known in the transfer market and have some talented players to come back ie Gobern, Davies and Gleeson. Jarvis will hopefully be playing a full season. No worries!
    As someone said earlier, no player is bigger than this club.

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  82. Jon said:

    if he wants to leave let him, we only want players that want to play for the club here at wolves, if he leaves lets bring in adam johnson from boro, and lets not forget lewis gobern. we dont want players at the club that think they are bigger than the club. no player is bigger than a club and its about time players started showing loyalty and honouring their contracts or what is the point in signing a contract?

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  83. laughingwolf said:

    somebody suggested routledge yesturday if he goes either him or sinclair from chelsea on the right maybe michael mifsud from cov?

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  84. TimB said:

    Hang on….the jury’s still out…Just because he’s after some kind of contract improvement, doesnt mean he wants to leave or intends to hold the club to ransom….Lets hold fire on sentencing him for a while

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  85. wolfmadgaz said:

    the fans on here who are sayign give him the money he wants are being stupid.

    if we give kightly more money then we would ahve to give keogh more money, SEB more money, foley more money, hennessy more money, henry more money the whoel team more money.

    if we do this we are back to square one of having big time charlies and going no where. lets say we give the players the money they want then that means we have less money to spend on players then we can’t improve our squad so means season after season in the championship then the players who wanted the money will leave anyway, so wolves hold your own his on a four year contract don’t sell and if he don’t won’t to play for us then he could always play in the reserves like rosa, but he never moans!!

    his probably on £10,000 a week thats £40,000 a month, £480,000 a year and say if kightly plays for the next 10 years and earns that the 4.8 million he would have earned in 10 years.

    who earns that in their lifetime?? i dont for one. so i wish fans will stop going on about footballers having short careers. greedy.

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  86. mat_stafford said:

    I think that the talks with moxey are about him wanting to leave if wolves dont make it to the premiership and mayb putting somethin on his contract which meant wolves have to accept a certain amount of fee if a premiership club comes in for him next season if wolves fail to gain promotion.

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  87. laughingwolf said:

    hate to say this but look at albion sold their prize assets for ridiculous money and replaced them with hungrier cheaper players and won the league. Sell kightly 6mil sell hennessey 8 mil, replace them with wayne routledge and matt murray with schmeichel as back up job done! the rest of the money can strengthen the midfield and centre back area, kites you were a nobody we have welcomed you sang your name and got you in the england under 21s and in the shop window wheres your loyalty, no player is bigger than this club if you choose go to middlesbrough were get 6 points off you next season and elokobi will give you a good going over!

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  88. London Wolf said:

    gregg cooper - spot on.
    why do so many posters take a rag like the e&s’s word for gospel. some of the over reaction on here is quite unbelievable.

    lets say he is being offered large amounts of money - can you blame him for going ? i wouldn’t - its the way the game is now - i dont agree with it, but the comments made by mark andrews are spot on.

    i think the real debate here is what is a reasonable wage to keep kightly at wolves ? where should wolves stop before we’re a) being held to randsome to compete b) destroy dressing room harmony c) set an example to other players that we are either an easy touch, or tight ?

    thats the question - how far should wolves go ?

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  89. DINGLE TIL 1 DIE said:

    not commited to the club!! off u go

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  90. Newport away said:

    Am i the only Wolves fan who thinks he is not really that good anyway??? In the Derby games, he is nowhere, his dribbling is erratic and i am sorry, give me £4m on a player bought for £50k anyday, Bully in his prime aside of course! I am Wolves through and through but Gera is a better player. Lewis Nytanga is available for transfer - he played at centre helf for Wales at the weekend and at 19-20, he looks someone who can come right in for a reasonably small fee and nominal wages and start as a first teamer. Others who have been mentioned such as Gerrard of Walsall and Williams now of Swansea will need time bedding in. And i do not care about rivalry, why the flip not Kevin Phillips??

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  91. U2 4 eva said:

    Sell Kightly £6m
    Sell Hennessey £6m
    Sell Oli £3m
    Sell Freddy £1.5 m
    But do not gibe MM the moeny pay him off Bring in Ince and Give him £12m to spend. These players will move on come what may . So sell em now to save unrest

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  92. mr smug said:

    no player is bigger than a club, the agent is only acting on behalf of kightly.

    Michael has got too big for his boots very quickly if he is unhappy over the terms of his 4 year contract. stick him in the stands for a year to teach him a lesson, he’ll still be worth the same this time next year.

    I suspect that Kites has had his head turned by a £15-£20k a week offer from the premiership, he’s a young lad with no loyalty to wolves.. if we get £5m for his i say take it.

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  93. laughingwolf said:

    I have just spoke to my uncle who is mates with paul kightly (brother)apparently stuart pearce has told him to play in the prem asap as he feels he could challenge for a place on the right hand side in the senior squad as beckham is nearing retirement, he wants to get there with wolves but dosn’t want to waste the opportunity, don’t shoot the messenger just what i have been told

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  94. Queensland Wolf said:

    This is the first big test of Morgan’s words on the pitch. If we can’t keep Kightly - our player with most potential, then we aren’t up for getting Wolves back into the Premier or build a new stadiun for that matter. I beleive Morgan and Moxey will do the deal with Kightly and keep him here. Come on jez, sort this out fast!

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  95. wolveswolves said:

    71) Easy Mick is to blame if players want to move to the premier because if it wasn’t for this man we would be in the premiership next year.
    If I was a young player wanting to get the best of my career would I stay and work under Thick Mick?…..

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  96. Cheltenham Wolf said:

    We don’t know what his agent is going to ask for. If he is simply asking for an increase in pay due to his current market value I don’t see the problem. It needs to be a reasonable demand otherwise Wolves should and will tell him “no”. Olofinjana has been the biggest earner for some time due to his ability to negotiate sensibly. Let’s see what his agent does.

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  97. John Paskin said:

    Most of you lot really are an embarrassment to our football club and city. First of all we have absolutely no idea what his comments are based on, yet Kites is your new villain of the week. And secondly, if it is about money, are you all so pious that your head wouldn’t be turned by mega bucks?? If he read the majority of the comments on here, I’m pretty sure he’d take a pay cut to get away from you imbeciles

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  98. jodie said:

    not happy =|

    we bloody made his career.

    im saying this as one of kightlys biggest fans, i love the man but to be fair if this is about money, he’s not the player alot of us fans thought he was.

    but with all due respect, i hope it’s sorted out sooner rather than later.

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  99. Molly Knew Mick said:

    A number of points:

    1) If you recall, Man U tried to hijack the Kites deal at the 11th hour which rather puts a lie to the argument that he owes us anything. If Man U were sniffing, it hardly suggests we were the only ones to spot his potential and give him a chance.

    2) Yesterday, we were all slagging off the Gray’s Chairman…..the same Gray’s chairman who honoured his commitment to the deal with Wolves when many other Chairmen would have taken the better money on offer from Man U

    3) Agents work for their clients and Mr Segal would be failing Kites not to get him a better deal. If 3 Premiership clubs are sniffing and the money on offer is substantially more, the agent would be failing in his job not to try and get an improved offer for his client.

    4) If you read Jez’s comments carefully from yesterday, nowhere does it say that Kites is staying or he won’t be sold. The words were very carefully chosen and expressed in very general terms. Moxey is clearly aware that there are “difficulties” and that he needs to be careful what he says.

    5) Loyalty! Since when has there been an implied obligation of loyalty in players’ contracts. It’s a short career and any club would cash in on their star asset if they needed the money. As others have said, few would put “loyalty” above significantly increased income and family security and we’re naive and hypocritical to think anything else. If Kites was your son and had the chance of promotion and a 300% pay rise, would you be telling him not to do it for the sake of “loyalty.”

    Let’s get real. I want him to stay and would make him the top earner at the club to keep him but I wouldn’t break the bank and if he went, I’d thank him for the £4m profit he’d generated for the club and wish him every success for the future.

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  100. wombourne baggie said:

    I would imagine he has had his head turned when on international duty with England, probably the same way Curtis Davis did with us. After a while some of these players start thinking they are far better than they are.

    Just remember no one player is bigger than either of our clubs & can be replaced, very much like Koumas, Kamara & Mcshane were at the start of last season.

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  101. bungwolf said:

    lets not get carried away with speculation. However it seems Kightly, his agent and Gray’s chairman are all after a pay day but lets not get carried away after all he signed a 4yr contact recently. It sounds so similar to Man U/Ronaldo situation (the best winger in the Prem has been got at - now the best winger in the Championship). I only hope Steve Morgan has the strength of character as the Glaciers highlighting their threat to leave him in the stands till the end of his contract (you can do that when you don’t need the money).

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  102. wolfmeister said:

    I agree. What the board should be saying is the same as Man U have with Ronaldo. If you’re not happy you can sit in the Stands and sit out your contract.
    If as we’re being led to believe money isn’t an issue we havnt got to bow to pressure

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  103. scottnorth said:

    He hasn’t really said much so calm down!
    I think he’ll stay but basically if he went to prem he’d earn tripple, so if morgan increases his wages/contract he’ll stop.

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  104. Novawolf said:

    Two thoughts….ONE…..his injury problems maybe have him questionning whether he’ll achieve a consistent fitness level again so maybe he wants a bit of financial security in case it all goes pear shaped..? You wouldn’t blame him. TWO…..from his comments not long ago he’s another who’s fed up with negative fans giving stick to the likes of Keogh and Collins. They all see how fickle the muppets in the Molineux crowd are so it’s no use anybody moaning about lack of loyalty….

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  105. jack wwfc said:

    all this prem talk had ballooned this guys head…michael get yourself fit and play more games then maybe start talking about these things.
    no doubt it is about money the greedy little sod!!
    i remember in a previous article ”all this premership talk is going over my head, im happy at wolves” not looking that way now

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  106. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    We will not be able replace Kightly he will be a massive loss if he goes.

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  107. Cardiff Wolf said:

    Yet another who would turn his back on a club that has given him the chance to shine & wants to repay by deserting…

    Yeah, he’s a brill player, but if you don’t want to wear the Black N Gold with pride then catch the next bus out of here. This guy cost £20,000 plus, if we sold for 4 million plus add ons then a smart bit of business. There are a few round that we could finance with his departure…who knows, some maybe better…
    Bout time players at Wolves got back to showing loyalty..play for the shirt, the club & the fans, not for youre bank balance….

    No player will ever be bigger than this club, if it aint for you Kites then take a hike before people start see the real motives…bringing back hanging for agents would be a class start, wev’e had enuff of em…

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  108. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    Mikey boy must have got himself a WAG that’s why he wants a higher pay.

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  109. SUPERSTARDJWOLVES said:

    A COMMENT FOR US ALL WOLVES FANS!!!!!

    What gets me is that how come wolves as a football club is suddenly a feeder club to the so called bigger bigger teams. We get good players in aka Lescott for example and as soon as they get good they get sold. Now I for one dont blame Lescott getting sold, he did get us to the premiership but injury prevented him playing in “that” season, he stayed following season but it was not to be and I guess Moyes forced Moxey’s hand. Anyway Kites is good, but there is no way why he needs to be sold, we dont get any gain from it apart from finacial and we would be left with finding another players to fill the void “PLEASE NO STEPHEN WARD!”

    If Kites is asking for more money then I think his attitude is a disgrace! If it wasnt for wolves he may well be languishing at Grays or probably in southend reserves. He needs to realise that Wolves is a great club, fantastic fanbase, tradition, and on the verge of something special over the next few years. He can be a part of it, he just needs to knuckle down and play football. Perhaps wage structure at the club can tbe tweaked but not wholesale changed otherwise you will get a group of players who then want to become big time charlies!

    If he wants to go then let him go. Lets face it, going to the likes of Middlesborough or blackburn is really going Big time isnt it!

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  110. Mighty Wolf said:

    Kightly has got a new agent (Keogh’s agent)and he is telling him he can treble his wages at a Premiership club.

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  111. tonimischi said:

    Alot of prejudgement going on here…all speculation, and 105, you’ve fallen into the media trap by the looks of it.
    Let the club sort it out. Every player has his price…Ronaldo’s is more than our squad, Kights is somewhat less but 6-7 million would be a great deal for a player attracting attention, if it should happen.
    Its would finance our promotion push, Berra and all other targets. It would be sound business. But no-one wants to see him go anywhere of course.

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  112. Bully said:

    Well said 24… Completely agree!

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  113. stu said:

    no.9, you are a moran, we do not know what the issues are yet and it could be the e & s talking rubbish to sell papers, be patient before you start slagging the players off because you could be made to look a fool!! maybe he feels he should be earning top money at the club along with seb,seyi,murray which he bloody well deserves because he is a premier star in the making.

    So lets wait and see what the issues are before we start jumping the gun, some of you either need to calm down or think before you type!!

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  114. Happy_baggie said:

    Crikey - it don’t take much for you lot to get the rope out does it ??

    Based on very little, your ONLY top quality player has gone from “boy wonder” to Fred West in 2 paragraphs…

    Honestly, no wonder A) No one likes you & B) No one wants to play for you.

    Is it any suprise you are voted the worst fans in the country - I really hope kightly sees this page.

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  115. Danny said:

    if he wants to leave let him go. Mickey Gray was one of our brightest players this season when playing right wing, and with Gobern coming back things are looking decent. we have no need to panic and offer kites big bucks

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  116. Breretonwolf said:

    The word FICKLE comes to mind. The newspaper prints what it will, some of you automatically believe it immediately, and start crucifying a player who has always shown his loyalty to the club. Who knows whether he has said anything? Who knows whether his agent is trying for a bit of extra cash for himself? (Those poor old agents, working their fingers to the bone for pittances.)

    Let’s not go knocking a kid who yesterday was the greatest thing since sliced bread. (except to 90-Newport away, who is obviously a WUM who knows nothing about football.) It may well be true that this has not been said, and if it was raised it may have been misquoted or taken out of context. Time will tell. IF HE GOES, and there is no proof that he wants to, good luck to him. He has always given 100% for the Wolves.

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  117. goldandblack said:

    Perhaps its nothing to do with money, or his agent. MM,s not bad at spotting youngsters and bringing them in and getting them to play as a team together. Perhaps its the fans that are making him unhappy with the moaning and groaning, what ever we post, what ever we say will not make much difference to the business side at Wolves, so lets all get together, whatever happens and support the team MM puts out, you never know it might just help, might make some of our players feel a bit more loyal.
    All together now … We,ll keep the gold flag flying high…..

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  118. mark andrews said:

    following my comment (63 Mark Andrews) when will people get together and address the real problems in football today? We need to stop directing anger towards Morgan or Kitely or McCarthy and together put pressure on the government to intervene and put a stop to the enormous wages and ticket prices. It is only by doing this that the Premier will become a more competitive division and teams in lower divisions will be able to keep their best players. This involves getting together for a huge demonstration in Hyde Park, Trafalgar Square or Wembley to put these issues on the national agenda. When are we going to wake up and save out beautiful game?

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  119. CharloBaggie said:

    In fairness Wolves fans some genuinely good points on this matter!

    as a baggies fan I sympaphise and 100% agree that some of these players dont know how lucky they are to be wearing the badge of west bromwich albion and wolverhampton wanderers!

    Kightly was playing for Grays 3 years ago and in the last 2 seasons has saw himself on the brink of the prem!

    i personally wouldnt read into these comments and i actually think he will be at wolves next year due to wolves pricing teams out the market!

    the only transfer i can see is if mark hughes goes to man city, i think wolves might expect 6.5 mil to be honest!

    i personally wouldnt touch him, i think hes a huge injury risk, in the same way i wouldnt have touch curtis davies for 10 mil

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  120. LeedsWolf said:

    Another example of players getting too big for there boots!

    If he goes to the prem I hope he ends up like Henri Camara…rotting in the reserves!

    Come on Kites!

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  121. CharloBaggie said:

    As England’s domestic football pre-season, or should that be silly season begins, rumours within the Black Country have become rife that Wolverhampton Football Club owner Steve Morgan is looking to cash in on the clubs redundant trophy cabinet.

    The season 2007/ 2008 has been yet another boring, low scoring and trophieless one for the ‘massive’ West Midlands outfit. With the threat of losing first team stars Wayne Hennessey and Michael Kightley to ‘massiver’ clubs Morgan has said he is willing to listen to offers and has decided to place the cabinet on popular web based auction site ‘Ebay.’

    The cabinet crafted from MDF is believed to be in ‘Pristine’ condition and measures 6ft in height by approximately 3ft in width. Bids start at £0.99 and a reserve of £17.50 is thought to be slapped on this fine piece of Wolves memorabilia.

    A Wolves Spokesperson admitted “This might be seen as a negative step by some of our supporters” he continued “As usual the board of directors will do everything in it’s powers to keep this club as big as everybody thinks it is, although it’s not really that big anymore, but we say it’s big, because everyone knows we used to be big, but we will once again be as big as we used to be when we were bigger”

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  122. Shrewswolf said:

    91) ridiculous!

    How about keep kightly, oli, hennessy AND Mick and be 60million better off next season!

    and as for michael, massive dissapointment son. I thought you were a true footballer… disgrace. I honestly wouldnt mind seein him go after these comments.

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  123. Filtonwolf (Bristol) said:

    Charlo….like your style mate !!

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  124. Shrewswolf said:

    114) HB I hope he sees these pages to, bring him back down to earth.

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  125. sandwell massive?? said:

    southbank barmy army, don`t slag him off before you know the facts! And wheres the honour in the shirt these days, fact is he probably doesnt want to play MM`s huff and puff long ball tripe.
    Anyway he aint that good, lets face it against the better teams in the CC he doesnt turn up. Taking the £5m wouldnt be so bad.

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  126. Breretonwolf said:

    124-Shrewswolf, I hope he doesn’t see them. He will realise what a small-minded, wilful, judgemental bunch of whingers we have at this club. A group of “supporters” who will sleight his character with no knowledge of whether the “statements” attributed to him are true. Get a life folks. THIS MAY BE TOTALLY WITHOUT SUBSTANCE!!!

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  127. Filtonwolf (Bristol) said:

    Happy, quite agree mate. It seems we always have a spare length of rope !! I still think the guy is worth extra cash - he’s quality and we nee d him. Like I said on another post some are worth more than others - it’s a fact of life.

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  128. southbank barmy army said:

    SANDWELL, YEP FAIR POINT MATE, OH I FORGOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO WEAR THE SHIRT WITH PRIDE AND LOYALTY TODAY..

    ARE THE BLOODY SUPPORTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  129. Gold N Black Army said:

    To be honest if Kites is unhappy or unsettled, he knows where the door is and we know we’ll be banking a few million from him leaving. I think his wants to move on to further his ambitions in his playing career and when clubs like West Ham, Middlesbrough, Everton and Blackburn are knocking on your door, you’d want to move to play in the Premiership thats understandable, but making a fuss in the media isn’t helping his or our cause, i wouldn’t be suprised if we’d be booing Kites the next time he steps out at Molinuex wearing a different shirt. In addition to this, its not like we don’t have players to step up to his position, honouring the shirt has no meaning in these days, its all about money and becoming a celebrity to a certain extent.

    Keep The Faith, WE ARE WOLVES.

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  130. Newbridge Wolf said:

    121. Wow you are a joker, just cause you’ve got your first title for 80 years in the cabinet there’s really no need to attempt humour, and point out every word thats meant to be funny with ‘apostrophes’.

    Regarding the article, you can never tell how much of this is just pure invention, there is after all only one sentence from the player, the rest is filled out to make up yet another sensational story, preying upon wolves fans fears. I wonder what acountability this paper offers itself to the club and its fans

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  131. Sandwell massive?? said:

    125, Why are you using my name?

    I spell Sandwell with a capital as well.

    In Mick I trust.

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  132. wandering_wolf said:

    Here we go, here we go, here we go…

    What was the name of that striker again. You know the one. The one who was crowned God by the faithful but then went on strike? Striker by nature, striker by nature.

    Here we have another player crowned God by the faithful. Will it be winger by name, whinger by nature?

    Or is this an Express & Star space filler?

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  133. Happy_baggie said:

    For all you lot know - the things he wants to discuss may not be money - he may want some assurances about the players coming in and about not selling your better players (like his mate Freddie)…

    If he doesn’t feel that wolves will be a real force this season why would he stay ??

    I doubt if he just wants an extra 5k a week - he wants to be successful.

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  134. Spanish Ray. said:

    Ban All Agents.They aren`t inerseted in the players they are only interested in their cut.Kightly wants to remember who plucked him out of non-league football and gave him the break,he also wants to remember who payed him and looked after him during hi injury lay-off.Come on Kites,remember what you said when you joined Wolves,show a bit of loyalty.Nuff said ?.

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  135. Big LesMitton moxley said:

    wheres kentwolf gone I hope hes oright

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  136. moxeysthreechins said:

    Good riddance to another player who is only interested in lining his own pocket! A typical modern day footballer.

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  137. stu said:

    114, if you read the official fans list you will find that bolton are the worst check the link you idiot
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/article770847.ece
    we were voted the biggest moaners and remember its not all of fans who moan its probably because the fact we have spent so much money over the past 13-14 years its envatable that some of the fans get disgruntled but because we attract big crowds for this level the fans moans are heard more than most of the other clubs, also were you or were you not booing dean kiely last season and getting on his back?! we may moan but we are there week in week out so no-one can question our loyalty for the club

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  138. DunblaneWolf said:

    Oh, will all of you idiots shut the hell up!

    Are you going to boo Kightly next year as well? Just because this rag are speculating doesn’t mean it’s true!

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  139. Breretonwolf said:

    The only actual quote by Kights is:- “My agent is going to have a meeting with Jez in a couple of weeks. There are a few things we are not happy about. Hopefully, after that meeting, they can be sorted.”

    He doesn’t say he is looking to move. He says he is hopeful that the “few things” can be sorted. That sounds positive to me. The fact that they are “little things” would point at the fact that they are not insurmountable. The fact that Kights hopes they can be sorted in one meeting doesn’t point to him wanting to move elsewhere. He wants them sorting, and doesn’t even hint at demands to leave if they aren’t.

    Don’t we all have annual reviews with our bosses? I have a meeting every year with my bosses, and we discuss things we would both like to see happen in the coming year. We are always hopeful that things can be sorted so that we can move forward together.

    Please get off this lad’s back.

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  140. RealistWolves said:

    Happy_Baggie

    Fair point it could well be that and I would say these players aren’t always correct though. Look at Kamara and McShane, they no doubt left Albion for those reasons and you’ve proved them to be wrong, sometimes think players and agents shouldn’t start thinking they know to much.

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  141. adam tranter said:

    i think his agent has just had a heart to heart convo with him and filled his head with nonsence. if he wants to go, then at 4mill or more would be a great deal.

    think of what we could get in return eh? should buy anthony gerrard, berra, lafferty, mclean and two other centre backs. any suggestions?

    should be ashamed kightly, what happened to the footballers who played for the love of the sport?

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  142. Wednesbury_Albion said:

    Tee hee! *rubs hands together with glee*

    In all seriousness, you should sell him. He’s overated, like most young English lads, and he obviously wants to leave. Get the £4m and run, invest it in the squad and you’ll be fine.

    That Jarvis is a much better player anyway. Your midfield could be fairly decent next season…

    Jarvis Edwards Olifinwhatshisname Lafferty

    Not bad! A couple of defenders, a striker to compliment SEB and either keeping Hennessey or keeping Murray fit for a season and you’ll be heading for a playoff spot.

    Keep the faith Dingles, we want our Black Country derby in the Prem where it belongs.

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  143. Happy_baggie said:

    137 - I’ve checked the link you added - Bolton were voted worst “home” fans - not sure what that means…

    Wolves were voted worst whingers… and what do think this page is full of ???? Fans with no knowledge of the facts whinging about the one player you have worth watching !!

    So I think my description is accurate - If that makes me an idiot then what the hell does it make you ??

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  144. terryPRETTYBOYbaggie said:

    133,happy, if he wanted to be succesfull why did he goo there in the fust place boing boing aye

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  145. stu said:

    kites if you do read these comments remember some of our fans are never happy! when I met you in rileys a couple of years ago you seemed like a stand up guy who is not a money grabbing so and so, cheers for the pint

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  146. brummie rob wolves said:

    After a number of sensible posts from wbabomber, I see some of the other hilarious Albion fans are on our pages, as they have nothing to talk about on their own due to zero transfer activity apart from the QUALITY signings last week.
    As for Kites being our only quality player. What a joker…!
    I will list them - Hennessey, Murray, Davies, Jarvis, Ebanks-Blake and the following are names for the future … Little, Foley, Elokobi, Gobern, Gleeson, Vokes and Keogh.
    Now get ready for your shift at McDonalds.

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  147. jack said:

    i hope he is not getting to big for his boots and seeing stars because of all the hype!good player for us(very good)but he still as a lot to do to be a premeirship top player!

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  148. RealistWolves said:

    Kightly has done nothing wrong, he simply says he wants to discuss a few things. Do other people not do that with their bosses.

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  149. RayG said:

    He probably saw how we performed last season when he was injured.Unless we start spending money on GOOD players we will lose all our decent players. So come on Steve & Jez start spending some REAL money the supporters deserve it.

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  150. London Baggie said:

    I think he is a star for the future but like all young players once they get called up in the England International set-up and speak to Premiership players regarding salaries they become very unsettled, I remember talking to Bryan Robson about it when he first got called up for England and the Liverpool and London based players mocking him about his salary. Wolves should say ‘you signed the contract and you should honour it !!’.

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  151. Macca Ruinedmysummer said:

    No player is worth more than the club-Michael Kightly included.If he doesn’t like it,then sell him on and make a profit-there are plenty more quality players out there.

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  152. terryPRETTYBOYbaggie said:

    146,ROB,there are no quality players in the championship,thats why they are in the championship cuz they got no quality,theres only quality in the prem,thats why we in the prem cuz we got quality boing boing

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  153. Amiie_Wolves said:

    I have met kites recently and do not think he is the sort of person who would leave us because he wants more money. If he is unhappy then there is no point him being at wolves as he wouldnt play or he wouldnt play his best. I am a 100% kightly fan and would absolutely hate him to leave. But he gotta do what he feels right.
    There is still a possibility that all this is being exaggerated and that kites is staying. Lets hope.

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  154. DebenhamWolf said:

    happie-baggie, spot on. You’ve hit a raw nerve yet again. Turning on our own, based on pure speculation. I sometimes feel so ashamed of some of my fellow fans. If our `best player` leaves for whatever reason, bon voyage Others will come. If he feels no loyalty, well, that’s the modern game. He is only looking after his own interests for the future. Even Manchester United are experiencing their players being unsettled. It’s the modern business and it is not going to improve. The old days and ways are gone. Our most loyal players have been the lads brought through the youth teams; let’s hope Gobern is fit and able. Hope this is a storm in a teacup as he is a useful player.

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  155. Steve Andrews said:

    Perhaps if we managed to get promoted one day then these mediocre premier league clubs coming after our players would stop. Trouble is we never get promoted, same every year.

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  156. RealistWolves said:

    RayG

    More chance he heard our idiot fans (minority).

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  157. Cheltenham Wolf said:

    I think these articles are like a red rag to a bull. When I read it I thought fair enough he is looking for a salary to reflect his increase in value. However, after reading posts on this page, it would appear that he should be hung, drawn and quartered for such a normal request! Do not condemn the guy before you know all of the facts. Such Bi-polar reactions are no good for the club or the players.

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  158. terryPRETTYBOYbaggie said:

    93,laffin, ive just spoke to my brothers mates mate and is dads brothers sisters cousins friend who knows a bloke who knows kites 2nd cousin and he said that is uncles father in law who knows his 3 cousin said he aint heard nuffin,boing boing

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  159. baggie said:

    Where do you get that kites owes you anything. The recognition he has recvied is due to his performances. You make it sound like your training turned him into the player he is. Man U wanted him so he obviousy was decent to start with so the chances he would still be in greys reserves are slim. Anyway he is overarted if robbo can keep him in his pocket what are top top class full back gonna do. Get the 4 mill wish him well and move on. It didn’t do us any harm last year.

    What a diffrence 12 months makes lol

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  160. LincsWolf said:

    39. Couldn’t agree more. Who could honestly say that if they had the chance to double their salary with another company, they would say “No thanks, I want to be loyal”
    You wouldn’t see me for dust!
    PS. Don’t go Kites!

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  161. ru said:

    Think it would be a complete disaster if we lost Kites.

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  162. LincsWolf said:

    If Kightly was as loyal as everyone wants him to be he would still be playing for Grays and trying to get them promoted, but he left them to further his career and earn more money, why should that stop with us?
    In 12 years he will be facing retirement! and where were we 12 years ago? hmmmmmm

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  163. mark andrews said:

    #Does nobody else think that these issues are important? There are endless discussions on forums and on five live about individuals and their motivations but there is never ever any attempt to challenge what is really wrong with the way football is organised at the moment, could somebody reply to this even if they disagree.

    mark andrews said: Jun 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    the only way to stop all of this is to distribute the Premier’s TV money more equally across the divisions. The Premier should never have broken off from the Football League in the first place 16 years ago. Wages should be cut in the Premier and ticket prices should also be cut. This requires government intervention. The role of football agents should be diminished and it could be argued that there shouldn’t be any in the first place. When did they come into the game, does anybody know? We should not break wage structures as it is the thin end of the wedge. The structure of football is based o n business and greed and it would be in everybody’s interest, including these rich overpaid footballers themselves, to change it. Paying people such huge salaries can only have a negative effect on the way they see themselves and it makes sure that they are separated off from the vast majority of fans who support them. I’d like you to stay Kites but if you go I’m not surprised. The question is whether there are values at Wolverhampton Wanderers for you that go beyond the lure of money. Do you like it here? have you got mates here? Do you like the way the club is run? Do you agree with Mick on the most important things? If you can’t answer yes to three of these questions, it’s best to go!

    mark andrews said: Jun 3rd, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    following my comment (63 Mark Andrews) when will people get together and address the real problems in football today? We need to stop directing anger towards Morgan or Kitely or McCarthy and together put pressure on the government to intervene and put a stop to the enormous wages and ticket prices. It is only by doing this that the Premier will become a more competitive division and teams in lower divisions will be able to keep their best players. This involves getting together for a huge demonstration in Hyde Park, Trafalgar Square or Wembley to put these issues on the national agenda. When are we going to wake up and save out beautiful game?

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  164. turgutrieswolf said:

    WILL ALL KNOW WOT RUNS FOOTBALL NOW DAYS…MONEY MONEY MONEY..LEY HIM GO..THE WALLET RULES..

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  165. lee said:

    well, no kites and another season under the muppet are two very good reasons to be grumpy.

    Pah !

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  166. Wolfinblack said:

    Kites if you read this, heres my advice:
    If you are not happy with your contract GET A NEW AGENT NOT A NEW CLUB!!!!.
    He was the one who got you the deal.

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  167. mark andrews said:

    Debenham wolf says: “If he feels no loyalty, well, that’s the modern game……It’s the modern business and it is not going to improve.” Do you and others think that there is nothing that can be done to regulate salaries and ticket prices and all the reasons why Kites might be tempted to leave us? We need to find ways of constructively opposing what is happending to our game beginning with bringing the Premier league back into the football league. Football should not be a business,it is
    much more important than that for local communities, families,links with the past and local identity.

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  168. danny said:

    how can he stay at a club that plays dire football.come down the hawthorns kightly and we will show you the champagne stuff

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  169. brummie rob wolves said:

    152) Terry shows that you know nothing about football. Ramsey from Cardiff had 3 of the biggest sides in the Premiership/world after him today.
    Gloating now… somehow I doubt whether you will be able to in a few months time!

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  170. Ripon Wolf said:

    We cannot allow ourselves to be held to ransom. If he is not satisfied with the new contract HE negotiated last season then it is time to cash in.

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  171. blondewolf said:

    does he want to wear the gold and black?i dont think so,i think hes getting a little bit greedy,let him go!!

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  172. Cornish Wolf said:

    133 Happy_Baggie
    Thank the Lord for a small voice of reason in among all the hyperbole. The only sad thing is it took you, a baggie fan to voice it. Nice on pal!
    Up The Wolves

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  173. mac said:

    Kites is under contract end of story unless 10 million is offered.

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  174. BENNYBOY said:

    As I have been pointing out for sometime on this site, no one seems to know who is doing what at Wolves ?
    McCarthy tries to sell some players he bought in and Moxey backs him ? You employ a rugby man to do a soccer man’s job and now Morgan wants to keep the players that are on the transfer list ? Comments from McCarthy about he has the best squad in the league, but trying to flog most of them and missing out on playoffs again ? Should be renamed MAD MOLINEUX !
    It is great to be a Baggies fan !

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  175. MIKE113 said:

    Thats rubbish sandwell getting something daft like £10mil for curtis davies then darren potters worth £40mil I think you talk of ebanks-blake for £4mil then curtis davies is worth 1k which he should be anyway

    All I’m saying is kites is £10mil hennessey £13mil and ebanks-blake £12mil if curtis davies is worth 10 mil

    Michael Kightly du du du
    Hennessey
    na na na na na na Sylvan Ebanks-Blake

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  176. Jez said:

    Let him go. He has progressed well in a short space of time - but he isn’t world class - or premiership class yet.

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  177. Prawn Sandwich said:

    If I was Kites and I’d read some of these posts, I’d have started packing

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  178. nigewolf said:

    160, yes, i agree but thing is he earns a month more than some of us do a year, more than enough for a comfortable life, im not slating the guy because he is quality, but give us another year, and if no promo then by all means seek your fortune mate!!

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  179. peter said:

    Has Kites forgot he was playing non-league football so recently in front of 100 people??. Get your loyalty’s sorted, get yourself fit, and get us promoted.

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  180. Rob said:

    Sounds to me that the agent want his big fee’s and Kightly has become greedy and fazed by the bright lights. If his heart aint at Wolves and he forgets who plucked him from none league then he can just sod off. He seems to think he’s better than he really is.

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  181. Wolf72 said:

    Greed that’s what’s unsettling him, it happens to most players unfortunately!

    Ever since I saw his half arsed commitment when he was on Soccer AM the other week I knew that he wouldn’t be hanging round!

    Can’t fault a player for wanting to better himself but if his heart ain’t in the club then he should walk away and we’ll move on, no hard feelings and all that!

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  182. Wolves boo-boy said:

    Stay calm its all talk, I tell you what is bad, finishing 7th in a poor division.

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  183. wednesbury1 said:

    were aiming for promotion!!!!!!!! kights seems to have highlighted fare pay next season.

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  184. johnwolf said:

    so kites wants talks-what for exactly-he was happy enough to sign a four year contract and pick up his money whilst being out injured, the club should make him honour it-END OFF.

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  185. johnwolf said:

    BAGGIE THE ONLY WAY ROBBO STOPED KITES WAS BY DOING WHAT BAGGIES DO WELL-KICKING HIM OFF THE PARK.

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  186. Richwwfc said:

    Mr.Kightly needs to remember who gave him the chance to get to where he is!!!!!
    Didn’t have this attitude when he was rescued from a career at Greys…no offense meant!!
    Get a bloody grip.

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  187. merridale wolf said:

    If you want to leave I will come and kick you out the door!

    You would be nothing and a nobody part time non league footballer with out Wolves!

    You didnt play last year now you may want to leave! No loyalty, now jog on!

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  188. Accountant Wolf said:

    I have spent much time and effort trying to explain to the majority of Wolves supporters, I believe that they are normally referred to as happy-clappers, what the business model of this club is all about.

    Of course this young man should be sold, it furthers his career in the Premiership, and WWFC makes at least £4M profit, any less would be shameful, but I have every confidence in Mr Moxey’s negotiating skills to achieve that target.

    Thus, we will end a nice business deal, with everybody profiting, the player, Grays, WWFC and the buying club who can turn him into an International if they handle his career properly.

    Wolves have become a natural nursery club, they have the ability to attract young (read cheap wages) players, who can then be sold on at a massive profit.

    There is nothing shameful in this, and Mr Morgan has every right to make profit from his £10 investment in purchasing WWFC.

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  189. CORNISH WOLF 2 said:

    Marvelous. He spent most of last season on the sidelines, comes back in for the last few games after weve paid his wages for siting on the sidelines and then through his agent either looks for a move or demands more money !!If hed got anything about him hed show a little loyalty to the club that gave him the chance.

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  190. Simon in Oklahoma! said:

    The possiblity of Fifa’s 6+5 rule has made Kites a much more valuable player, & he knows it. Even if 6+5 never happens…it will have focussed Premier League clubs attention on the best English players just in case it does.

    Most of them will be thinking how will we all find 6 decent Englishmen.

    6+5 is another reason why it is essential we keep him.

    Simon :)

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  191. misterdj said:

    Reality Time
    1. Stop all this “no loyalty” crap - it is a rarity, an exception, not a rule - football, like any other form of employment these days, is a transient one - workers have much more freedom of movement and will naturally go where the pay and conditions are better. I cannot see how you can blame the player or his agent for doing that. His agent is just doing his job and why should Michael Kightly really care about Wolves? - he was born in Essex and had probably never even been to wolves before he signed. He has only been here a short time so he can hardly have built up an undying affinity to the club.
    2.Contracts mean nothing - Man City sack Sven, Chelsea get rid of Grant because it suited them, Mark Hughes says Bentley going nowhere because of contract and then he himself gets ok to talk to Man City - what happened to HIS contract? Contracts are purely for some form of financial protection[and to make lawyers rich]
    3.Any club that is not in the top half of their premier division will always “lose” their best players to clubs that are financially and succesfully better off than themselves - Wolves are nowhere near the top flight - do you honestly believe we can retain any of our better players until we are not only in the premier league but secure in it?

    As a Wolves fan yes I’ll be upset if he goes - he clearly is that much better than the rest that he makes us look a one man team when he plays - but that is because I follow Wolves with an emotion - The staff of any football club do not - it is just their job - you just hope that they do it to their best of their ability while they work for our club.

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  192. dave said:

    don’t go KITES stay with us win da league then you can ask for what ever you want i’m sure morgan won’t say no!

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  193. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    143. Your right but if any club had to put up with the crap we’ve had to, they’d whinge just the same.

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  194. pip said:

    Break the bank to keep him? i dont think so,Brian Clough would give him his answer,ask that winger i believe his name was Franz carr.

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  195. JIWAL said:

    Looks like we have another Camara on our hands.No loyalty, and to say he is unhappy about a contract that was only signed last year is ludicrous. If he’s unhappy, and wants more money…get rid

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  196. stonewolf said:

    Good luck kites you deserve to be in the Prem League, shame it wasn’t with wolves. Lets not be too upset we still have Mick’s best signing with us-Stephen Ward

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  197. Silverstone Wolf said:

    IUf he has an ounce of decency, he’ll stay.

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  198. Blaise Wolf said:

    I dont think he’s going anywhere, just sayin,traa

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  199. WS15Wolf said:

    So basically, he wants more money…. Typical.
    But for god sake GIVE IT HIM!

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  200. Chazza said:

    Any lads from Wolverhampton want to play? That’s what we need. Local lads. ODCL. I’m shocked to hear his comments. What a great debt he had to pay to Merlin. Then he’s injured. What exactly have you done lad? Climbed another rung of the ladder at the expense of the Molineux faithful. You just reinforce what devotion we have for the likes of the Dougan and Bulls of our world - sorry - naff off!

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  201. Wolves Mick said:

    Is his 4 year contract at the club not an issue ? H ehas already signed it. Im sure he will be a Wolves player next season BUT he he is NOT bigger than the club or its fans.

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  202. Breretonwolf said:

    Get real. He HASN’T said he wants more money. He HASN’T said he wants to leave. He HASN’T said anything other than that he hopes a few matters in his contract “can be sorted.”

    Do you never sign a contract without really reading the small print, and then wish you could change a few things later? Maybe he has done the same, and is now asking for those few things to be changed.

    To crucify the lad, like some of you are doing, without knowing the facts tells me that some of you need to get a life. Let’s at least see how this pans out before we jump to conclusions that “he wants more money,” “he isn’t loyal,” “he is too big for his boots,” etc. The truth is that we don’t know if any of those things are true, and to alienate a player for no reason is just beyond reality.

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  203. 1978reg said:

    185) Couldn;t agreed more. I don’t know why Kightly thinks he is that good. He hasn’t played well since before we played Albion in the playoffs the year before (I know he has been injured - before you all start)

    They were massive games and he simply didn’t step up! Let him go to the prem, i would like to see him there to be honest. How would he compete against Ashley Cole??? He wouldn’t !!

    He needs more seasons to in lower leagues to develop and be a better player.

    If he wants to go let him go. Don’t get me wrong he is a good player and i would like hi at the wolves for a long time but i don’t want any player with us who thinks he is BIGGER than he is!!

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  204. Baggy 1 said:

    202 if he stays with you who is going to develop
    him Mad MM and TC, however if he does stay he will plenty of time to develop in the lower league, because you lot will never get out of the CCC pop league.
    201 are you on this world, I would not have liked you with me in the Army, he signed a contract now honour it, and get on with the the Job, which you are paid for very well.

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  205. Wednesbury_Albion said:

    174… “Thats rubbish sandwell getting something daft like £10mil for curtis davies then darren potters worth £40mil I think you talk of ebanks-blake for £4mil then curtis davies is worth 1k which he should be anyway

    All I’m saying is kites is £10mil hennessey £13mil and ebanks-blake £12mil if curtis davies is worth 10 mil

    Michael Kightly du du du
    Hennessey
    na na na na na na Sylvan Ebanks-Blake”

    I’m actually embarrassed for you. Your fellow Wolves fans must cringe at this kind of post.

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  206. Poor little dingles. said:

    Michael Kightly - Young talented footballer with a very bright future in the game, perhaps 2nd to David Bentleycon the England front..

    Now why would he stay at wolves??????????????????

    Truth will hurt you clowns.. da da de de de de …..

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  207. The Real Bully. said:

    I haven’t come on here to gloat. Kightly, probably at his agents instigation is trying to get the best deal for himself and before calling him greedy, how many of us wouldn’t do the same if we could?
    With Steve Morgan, Wolves are in a position, as we were at the end of last season to say no to other clubs unless they’re offering silly money. No one is irreplaceable and players that have become legends in their own lunch time can unsettle the team. Look at us in the Play Off Final. The best the club can do is get top dollar for them.
    Finally, I’ve got to agree about agents. As I’ve said on a previous thread, I wouldn’t want to see them banned, shooting would be much better. Seriously though, how about a rule which only allowed a players agent to receive a percentage cut from a transfer fee once every four years. If the player moves more often the agent only gets a flat rate costs amount set by the FA?

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  208. We8Albion! said:

    Jez’s comments of the “offical wolves site” are good enough for me. look forward to seeing him ripping other teams to pieces next season!

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  209. Breretonwolf said:

    203-baggie1, What army were you in? Salvation Army?

    I am looking forward to next season. It should be interesting to hear you Baggies making excuses for being back in “the fizzy pop league” whilst we are with “the big boys” in the Prem.

    An old manager of mine had a saying he lived by. It said something to the effect of, “Always be careful what you say to folks when you are on the way up. You may just have to speak to them again when you are on the way down.” I look forward to speaking with you after season 2008/9.

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  210. Baggy 1 said:

    British Army, Just like my father, my son is in RM
    in Afganistan, however he does not like everything out there but he signed on and he has to get on with it. At least we will be in the Prem you loosers will never get there.

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  211. G&B said:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I bet you did ;)
    I cant believe how many pathetic comments are on here……………….
    No wonder he “might” leave with fans like you i would leave, in what line of his “quote” did he say he will leave Wolves ?
    More negative spin from the E&S as a few have mentioned on here (and i mean a few).
    Give him a break FFS !!!!

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  212. Kent Wolf said:

    Kites is only looking out for himself,same as anyone else does.Can you blame him?

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  213. RealistWolves said:

    209

    In your world then there would only be free tranfers, as no one should leave a club under contract. Ok. If you say so.

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  214. Caravan of love said:

    Don’t believe the hype, as flavor flav put it. Wise words.

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  215. Bridget & Tony said:

    For all anyone knows Kites may well have on his list of gripes that like Steve Gerrard at Liverpool, he wants to be assured that Wolves will bring in quality players to make a real fist of it to get promoted - NOT a sprinkling of decent players plus alot of makeweight less than average cheapos that can run around all day long achieving nothing but a sweaty shirt! (better off using our own home grown youngsters than buying the likes of N Collins etc)

    Yes, Kites was bought at bargain basement from Grays - BUT these days those sort of players are few and far between

    We supposedly play with wingers, we had injuries last season and had nearly all the fit youngsters on loan elsewhere - Gleeson got promoted at Wembley with Stockport and played with purpose and pride - not good enough for our squad? vs the likes of Potter and the lad from Manc Utd? Mulgrew at Southend not as good as George Elokobi? D Jones at Cobblers not better than S Ward wide left? Mark Little not better kept at the club to keep K Foley on his toes and played when required instead of N Collins?

    Not wishing to add to the Freddie debate but IF we had Freddie watched several times - would it not be obvious that he was the wrong type of striker for MM’s so called tactics? and someone more like Stern John type was required to play alongside SEB??? (Hold the ball up and retrieve from midfield type?)

    EVERY club has injuries - the balance of players available were simply NOT good enough - the central defence could not cope in MM’s first season - and our onw home grown young and hungry were sent away with no chance to shine at their own club?

    If Kites wants to leave for financial reason let him go for Top Dollar, If not, we need better to compete and the addition of our own home grown to make up the squad; where there is an abundance of players in one position; yes loan them out If not let them stay and give them a chance instead of sending them out on loan and using the likes of S Ward at left wing (It was not his fault, but it must have been soul destroying for the lad who tried hard but simply cant play wide left!)
    The enigma that is Keogh; whilst the booingof players is stupid - the comments in the media is just as bad - often coming back to “bite people” where it hurts - If you’re gonna score 20 next season great - like the Nike advert says “Just Do It!)

    Heres hoping MNM gets a tactical brain transplant in time for next season!!!

    UP THE WOLVES!!!

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  216. Breretonwolf said:

    209-Baggie1, can’t knock your son. All power to him, and I hope he comes home safe and well. My nephew was out there with the Royal Signals, and it is a tough place to be.

    Sort of puts things in perspective, doesn’t it. We are on here arguing about footie, and those lads are out there doing a great job for Queen and country. God bless them.

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  217. Baggy 1 said:

    215 True
    however gives us something to moan about and hurts no one

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  218. G&B said:

    214.
    Gleeson a sucess and Mulgrew better than Elokobi ?
    Gleeson was in out the team at Stockport this season and is nowhere ready yet.
    Mulgrew is great going foward but useless as a defender many Southend fans have said that, no where as good as Big George.
    Little is a great prospect and like Jones 1st team football last season will be a benefit for us this season.

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  219. media wolf pete said:

    Give him the sodding pay rise - still cheaper than trying to find a replacement. Not ideal, but only real solution - assuming money is the issue here.

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  220. Thomas said:

    2m and Adam Johnson from Boro. Thank you and goodnight

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  221. SKYE BAGGIE said:

    LET HIM GO, TOMO LET THE BIG TIME CHARLIES GO WHO DIDN’T WANT TO PLAY FOR THE CLUB AT THE END OF THE 06/07 SEASON. HE DIDN’T PANDER TO THEM AND OFFER THEM BETTER WAGES TO STAY. HE BROUGHT IN NEW BLOOD ( SOME GOOD, SOME NOT SO GOOD). BUT IT DIDN’T DO US ANY HARM DID IT? WE ARE HAVING THE SAME SCENARIO WITH GERA AT THE MOMENT. I BET YOU HE GOES AND WE END UP WITH A REPLACEMENT AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER. THESE PLAYERS HIDE BEHIND THEIR AGENTS BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE THE B**LS TO STAND UP AND NEGOTIATE THEIR OWN DEALS AND THEY CAN ALWAYS POINT THE FINGER OF BLAME ELSEWHERE.
    BOING BOING IN THE HEBRIDES.

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  222. STEVE said:

    SINKING SHIPS AND RATS.NUFF SAID !

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  223. lee said:

    Kights, gi’ uz one more year !!!

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  224. Bridget & Tony said:

    217 - Elokobi also had his critics when he was at Colchester - only difference is that Mulgrew plays regularly at Scottish U21 level and never really given a chance - the point was that youngsters sent out on loan - hardly given a chance and we play N Collins and S Ward totally out of position when someone else like D Jones and M Little would have been far better here than at Cobblers

    Some fans we know at Stockport are more than pleased with Gleeson - the likes of D Potter did not much of anything - but could get a game

    NB* the point really is that we badly need some quality not quantity - having more of quality opposed to “they put in a shift” types is paramount - there are plenty of talent in the lower leagues that can dribble rings around our wannebe “put in a shift” lot - just a question of getting them in and soon!

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  225. scotwolf said:

    B&T
    spot on i totally agree re our younger players,freddie,defence, out of position etc.

    i was like a broken record going on about all of the above and more last season.

    last summer i thought great we would buy quality not quantity, was dead chuffed when we got freddie, foley and jarvis seemed good additions. but i do feel we could have doen the same if not better with many of our own younger players who were farmed out here there and everywhere.

    look who we are going for so far at the moment. how much are we willing to spend on lafferty 2,3 or 4 million does anyone else think this is good value for money.
    the young lad berra seems a great prospect has been hearts captain just promoted to scotland squad and has played well this season but in a very poor hearts team. but there we are offering 1.5 million+. hearts will sell for about 2 million.

    at least we have got rid of some of the rubbish now but i could of added a few more names to the free transfer list.
    we need quality!!!! not huff n pufers who run about to now avail.
    we can’t afford for mick to keep squandering money like previous managers a lot of his buys ahve fankly ben not up to it and were a waste of money.
    i feel if we get good offers for wayne and kites then who can blame them for going to premiership clubs. but we need to get good money with add ons we must not let them go cheap.

    not looking forward to next season but who knows mick may suprise me like a couple of years ago but i can’t see it. here’s hoping.
    come on the wolves!!!

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  226. Matt Brettell said:

    somebody has his eyes on ££££, stay at wolves this is the season! =]
    D I N G L E

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  227. DebenhamWolf said:

    mark andrews, I agree with nearly all your points. Unfortunately we cannot turn back the clock. The rich clubs , one of which could have been us until the disasterous eighties, and Sky TV have far too much political clout. The continental and Scottish systems of having two, three or even four big rich clubs attracting the best players in order to dominate the various domestic and European competitions is now a fact of life. Italy, Spain etc were doing this in the fifties. We only cottoned on in the eighties. Worst thing that ever happened to our domestic game for most fans, but also, in some respects, for the followers of the successful few, the best thing to happen. Look at the players and games you can now see on your telly or at a match; the best in the world! Personally I would rather be watching a competition where the likes of Burnley or Cardiff could occasionally win the league: a true fair competition but it’s not going to happen. Top soccer is now big, big business. We, the little guys have no way of making it a more even playing field no matter how much we desire it. FIFA are trying to address aspects of some of our clubs gathering all the available talent at the moment.I will be interested to see whether they are successful and I wonder why they chose to do this now rather than in the years when Spain and Italy garnered all the great players to their top teams. It is a heatbreaker to those of us old enough to remember different and, in competitive ways, better times.

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  228. Bridget & Tony said:

    Scottwolf we hear you loud n clear - We badly need better “Championship” quality never mind Premier league

    MM seems to struggle to “control” players that are talented or have strong leadership qualities - so the perpetual lesser knowns and cheapo’s always get the nod from Moxey and the occassional decent player to appease us fans and sell a few more tickets!

    We really need one strong leader - perhaps the Scottish lad from Hearts may be the answer?
    The problem with siging young talented players is that you have probably got less than 18 months before the Prem clubs come sniffing - so the answer really is to bring in better quality alongside say 3 to 4 decent experienced players who are ready for the bottom half of the Prem/ Top half of the Championship football; - Not players who are ready for Masters football and can run as fast as Moxey?!?

    If you go for young and hungry - you also have to realise that if you dont go all the way and build a team that is effective around them - these youngsters will follow in the footsteps of Joleon and maybe others who are now looking at what Prem clubs can offer them - No matter how much Mr Morgan may protest that they are NOT for sale - everyman/ player has their price! Thank goodness is no longer just up to Moxey!!!

    We also hope that MM reads up about football tactics for next season and does not employ this sit deep all the time and pretend to play “counter attack” stuff!

    As someone else on another thread highlighted recently - our results against the Top 7 or 8 last season was nothing short of rubbish! WHY? Lack of quality, abillity, tactics or generally clueless in most cases! Money was made available - some good signings made but maybe the wrong players sent out on loan - for our money N Collins and S Ward should have been loaned out to a lower division club and Little, D Jones, Mulgrew given a chance to show what they can do - Confidence is key with youngsters - and they certainly have more pace than S Ward or N Collins do!

    We live in hope of better times to come!

    UP THE WOLVES!

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  229. dan sl3 said:

    in other words he wants a pay rise or he is off to the prem :|

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  230. Stoke Wolves said:

    Sort it out quickly! On to our most pressing need, perhaps Anthony Gardner from Spurs a pretty good central defender who originates from Stafford and once played for England may form a good partnership alongside Berra next season.

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  231. jonners said:

    DON’T PANIC EVERYBODY - Sunderland have just released 8 players and some of them are Irish, Mick swap the lot for Kytes thats bound to work.

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  232. Tez Read said:

    This is what happens when you sell your best players Mick - Freddy Eastwood.

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  233. Billy Whis-Man said:

    Come on is he really that good ?. Okay he has been injured but is he really a goalgetter–Answer -No. At this moment in time he is still serving anprenteship–In the Pemier division willhe be able to develop-Spend most of his time on the bench– We need to keep him let him develop-If he wantsmore money give it to him–But if a big club comes calling for big bucks the lad willwant to move on, who would not. On the subject of Lescott -He was injured yes, the club supported him and he gave us a full season-He played out of his skin-we went nowhere he did–Good Luck to him-Same rule should apply to Kites–but we really need class defenders in the squad if he moves on then I hope Moxey will get a good price.–

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  234. Worcesterwolf said:

    So what happens when we give him a pay rise and he struggles and doesnt put the effort in anymore

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  235. DudzieWolf said:

    No-one can say we made him and he would still be playing in BSQ if it weren’t for us, Man Utd were in for him as well. Other teams have gone up and reached the play-offs without Michael Kightly, it would not be the end of the world if he did go. I would only blame this situation on McCarthy’s inept performance on and off the pitch last season. His signings, his team selections have all lead to us playing football in the CCC next season. Had he bought a decent defender or two at CB and not been so stubborn with his underperforming forward line at the beginning of the season then things could have been different, we will never know this for sure I agree but we could have found out if his attitude towards the players and fans been somewhat different

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  236. . Bridget&Tonly said:

    MMs got a surprise up his sleave.

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  237. wazzzuuuuuuuup said:

    This close season stress will do no one any good, we will have enough to whine on about after august 9th. If he leaves then good luck to him. I work for £9 an hour been there 20years. If someone offered me a couple of quid an hour more to do the same job then you wouldn’t see my arse for dust. Whatever your profession, loyalty don’t make you any more thought of.

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  238. Nippy Lobo said:

    Talk about building a team for the future is just nonsense in the conditions of modern football. Anyone engaging in it is either either a con man fooling the fans or is living in Never-never Land. You succeed now or you don’t succeed! End of!

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  239. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    205. We’ve got loads more fans than you lot, so of course we’re gonna have the odd dumbos commenting.

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  240. Sheepinwulfsclothing said:

    Once a player gets restless there is only one course of action… sell him for as much as you can get& use the cash to strengthen the team (not the squad). Whoever you bring in must be better than what you have. After all, we at Sandwell Town managed to do it last season…….

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  241. Happy_baggie said:

    239 - proving the point by going on about your fan base again…. dumbo !

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  242. StJohn said:

    I’ve heard he’s just not happy being called a Dingle down his local. Wants to move to a bigger club but I don’t think he’d get in the Albion Premier League side.

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  243. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    241. Trust you to miss the point, dumbo…

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  244. Billy Whis-Man said:

    Bye the way Baggies–He would be a good replacement for “Gera”

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