Wolves pull Ramage deal

Peter Ramage playing for Newcastle UnitedWolves have pulled the plug on a potential deal for Newcastle defender Peter Ramage because he wants too much money.

With centre-half duo Gary Breen and Jody Craddock out of contract and due to have their futures announced today, boss Mick McCarthy had considered a move for 24-year-old Ramage.

Ramage, handed a free transfer by Toon chief Kevin Keegan, was one of several possibilities under McCarthy’s microscope as he attempts to mould the winning formula for a fresh promotion assault next season.

McCarthy has also been linked with £1m-rated Hearts’ captain Christophe Berra, who is also 24.

But sources say Ramage wanted more than Wolves were willing to commit to.

The Ashington-born defender, who has played 50 League games for Newcastle, wants to explore his options in the hope he can clinch a move to stay in the Premier League, possibly with one of the promoted clubs.McCarthy’s plans will become clearer after today’s announcement of his retained list. Loan players Darron Gibson, Kevin Kyle and Graham Stack are expected to return to parents clubs Manchester United, Coventry and Reading respectively after their loan periods expired.

Wolves are set to welcome back striker Jay Bothroyd and defender Lee Collins from Stoke and Hereford after they helped their temporary sides to promotion.

Bothroyd started once and came on three times for the Potters and hasn’t figured since April 7.

But fellow loanees Charlie Mulgrew and Stephen Gleeson, who have helped Southend and Stockport to the League One and Two play-offs, will almost certainly be allowed to stay to help them go up.

Midfielder David Edwards believes only ‘fine tuning’ is needed to the squad to turn them into a promotion-winning force.

“We’ve got a relatively young team with some good experience as well so it will probably be a case of a bit of fine tuning,” said the Welsh international.

“With another year’s experience the lads who are hitting 23, 24 will start to come into their prime.”

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104 Comments

  1. john westwood said:

    plz get mick out and keep freddy. freddy freddy freddy

  2. southbank barmy army said:

    couldn’t give a fluff about ramage..but kyle and gibson going back where they come from..

    WWWHHHHOOOOOPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

  3. Eddie Wolf said:

    Forget the greedy bugger then! Dont start sacrificing our low-wage policy, just to keep this bloke happy!

  4. dappa100 said:

    lol ere we go

  5. S*U*P*E*R said:

    Fine by me, we only want players here who want to play for the club! Not some primadonna who thinks he’s worth more than he is!

    With regard to Stack…I thought we’d already signed him permenantly in January?!

  6. wolfhound said:

    We now know whats on the agenda in the summer for new signings more dross like Collins because we cant afford decent players.

  7. THE_BIG_UN said:

    Is this a sign of things to come then people wanting to come to us but Wolves not wanting to pay for them? 24 year old defender, which we urgently need being turned away!!!! what happened to the young squad we wanted?

    MIck go now with Moxey we need a complete reshuffle.

    STEVE MORGAN IF YOU EVER READ THESE BOARDS PLEASE USE YOUR NOUSE AND GET RID OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRAGGING OUR BELOVED TEAM DOWN

  8. Happy_baggie said:

    Yeah - these 24 year old premiership defenders… the cheek of it. Can’t believe he wants more than Collins and Breen..

    Pity you aint got a multi-million pound sugar daddy to buy him for ya… oh hang on…

    Its nothing to do with money its all about ambition - still, think we might take a look though.

  9. JIWAL said:

    So now we know the level of Morgan’s ambition.Sell before we buy

  10. terryCHAMPIONbaggie said:

    season only bin finished 4days and aready your doing next season on the cheap,pay up or dont go up,simple as.boing boing cheap cheap

  11. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    Hey Big Spenders!

  12. Loyal-Cannock-Wolf said:

    It seems Mick finally realises we need good players in though…

  13. deeps said:

    If he is only after the money we are better off without him… but we will need to spend some off morgans money to get some decent players in at the back..

    glad the loans are going back… thnik we need to start trimming our squad, i read somewhere we had the biggest squad in the league… shame MM never used them all!

  14. Fox Wolf said:

    Although we should not be held to ransom by player’s/agent’s demands, we must expect to pay the going rate for premiership class footballers. If the ambition is there, we will require players that can give us that little bit extra to push us to the next level. If we are not prepared to break the wage structure, I expect to see the same mainly low calibre of player at the club next season, SEB and Kightly
    excluded.

  15. Robert Perry said:

    If we want to sign decent players we have got to pay the wages.We had the same problem when we were in the Premiership.This is Moxey trying to be clever and he is ruining the club.

  16. THE_BIG_UN said:

    Looks like Laurel and Hardy are gonna be offered another year then.

  17. southbank barmy army said:

    terry..pay up or dont go up simple as.

    SPOT ON KID, YOU KNOW THE GAME!

  18. WoLvEs FoReVeR! said:

    OMG! here we go again on this low wage policy its going to be a season to remember again for the bad reasons….

  19. SUPERSTARDJWOLVES said:

    We dont need greedy players at wolves. Remember the dark days of the 90’s where players came to us for their retirement fund i.e Mark Atkins springs to mind!

  20. lanemeyer said:

    yeah lets break the bank for him Mick, then you can play him in centre midfield or upfront or anywhere but his proper position or even leave him on the bench after he answers you back!

  21. muppetout said:

    we are going nowhere! MM OUT

  22. wandering_wolf said:

    Here we go. Cheapy, cheapy players only again. They must be young and hungry. They must put a shift in. Cos that’s been so successful already.

    You know, I’m sickened at myself for being so downcast and cynical about my team. I wonder where, when and how I developed that feeling from? Oh yeah, it came from season after season of the same old ever since I started supporting Wolves as a child in 1977. Yup, we had a few years of glory - Andy Gray at Wembley, Steve Bull everywhere… but the majority has been crap and Wolves keep talking up ambition but never ever managing to deliver.

    Oh but we did. Dave Jones got us promoted! Then the board gave him £2.29p and thought he’d find us a Ronaldo with it. He failed. We sacked him a couple of months after we got unsurprisingly relegated. We’ve been crap ever since.

    Come on Wolves - give me a reason to be cheerful about the club, for goodness sake. Sure, we have a lovely stadium, but I don’t get excited watching yellow flip-up seating. I get excited watching quality football and thinking we might actually win something occasionally. What did we last win? The Sherpa Van Trophy? Oh, joy of joys…

    Zzzzz…

  23. muppetout said:

    hang on stephen carr ex irish international, watch this space,

  24. brummie rob wolves said:

    I wonder what wages we were offering…?
    Anyway we better get things sorted sooner rather than later! We have youngsters as alternatives ie Lee Collins, Mark Little and I reckon Elokobi could do a job there with Jones at left back.
    We do not want to see old 10 to 2 feet there again, Neill Collins. We must get rid of the peripheral players. Look at someone like Keith Lowe. He has been loaned everywhere and does not get a chance here. If he is not good enough, get rid!

  25. Newbridge Wolf said:

    Nice to see the usual well rounded positive comments on the board, just what anyone exactly has done wrong here is beyond me. (I’m sure some excitable individual will try to point it out for me)

    A prem reject looking for a fat pay packet playing in the championship, I should hope we sent him packing.

    Some of you really should look up the word support, you might remember what your meant to be doing. Support the club and support the team, if all you want to do is moan about how your life didn’t turn out the way you wanted it to, then can you go home to cry please

  26. Poor little dingles. said:

    2. Yeah Gibson will be gutted to go back to Man U!! ha ha..

    Ramage would be a good signing for a chumpionship club so think you guys should be gutted with the lack of ambition! Free transfer so only £500 per week wages to pay.. tut tut..

  27. Paddy said:

    It’s a good sign that we’re moving this quickly though.

  28. Time for a change said:

    People forgetting the £3m+ bid we made for Ledley in January??
    No half witted Prem reject should hold the club to ransom.

  29. Happy_baggie said:

    21 - are you related to mangetout ?? You are like two peas in a pod.

    Bonjour !

  30. Michael said:

    why is everyone having a go at the club, do you all know what his wage demands where. simple answer no.
    if you know exactly what he was demanding then i can understand.

  31. southbank barmy army said:

    NEWBRIDGE..nice to see the chairman of the armchair supporters club, giving all the loyal supporters some more pearls of wisdom. no doubt collected from comments made by robbie and bill on beacon radio.

    don’t forget mate if you come along to games next season, bring your flask, packed lunch and trainspotters weekly to read at half time. bring a megaphone too so muppet knows there is one idiot at molineux who thinks he’s a manager.

  32. MancWolf said:

    Hes rubbish anyway but then again no worse than 6 penalties collins

  33. Wolves9 said:

    8 Happy, would be delighted if you signed him.

  34. Paulwolf said:

    25. Newbridge - Spot on mate and 31 southbank barmy army shut the hell up, how do you know he if goes week in week out? I agree with him and I go every week, plus the occasional away game and I’ve renewed my ticket for next season.

    We’ve seen it all before, a Prem player looking for loads of dosh and then they show no commitment at all. Or, more than likely, he’d be injured because that’s what happened with a lot of his time at Newcastle.

    I really hate our pathetic bunch of moaning know-it-alls that supposed to be called Wolves fans.

    Roll on next season…

  35. Breretonwolf said:

    What was the bloke asking for? We don’t know. If he was aking for twice what Kightly, SEB, Henners, etc are on, should we just pay it?

    I would hate to have some of you in charge of my household budget. Your missus says, “That telly is £8000, love.” You say, ” That’s a premier telly, so we must have it, no matter what it costs.” Missus says, “That dress is £500, but the women in the posh end of town are wearing them.” You say, “If posh women are wearing them, and we want to eventually live up there too, you must pay £500 for one right now.!!” I cannot believe these would be your responses, and yet you expect Wolves to pay that now for a player who will play below his previous level in the coming season, and then, if he is as mercenary as this sounds, move on before the end of next season, when you may well need him.

    There are currently young players out there who will be at Premiership level in a season or so who we can pay Championship wages to in the coming season, and then negotiate their Premiership wages if and when we go up. Let’s be sensible about this, instead of being willing to snipe about anything or everything JM or MM do or say. if you wouldn’t do it at home with your wages, don’t expect the club you love and support to do the same at their level.

  36. Newbridge Wolf said:

    31. I sit it the south bank you dolt, I share a season ticket with a mate because of work commitments I cant get to every game, I even made a couple away this year.

    I did like to see that you managed to prove me right though ,with yet another knee jerk reactionary comment, you don’t know how stupid you really sound

  37. Bully4Engalnd said:

    OPPORTINUTY TO GOOD TO MISS - MM “4 Sunderland players released” headlines on BBC.

    I reckon we’ll at least end up with one of them.

    Not looking forward to next year at all. The football is dire and the players seem to be getting worse. Freddy is the only guy that can play football and we all know he’s going to score 30 goals for Coventry next year

  38. Robert Perry said:

    30 Michael.The reason why people are having a go at the club(justifiably IMO) is because of the lack of success we have had over the years(Compared to our Midland rivals)and the lack of quality players we have at the club.Any team with an ounce of ambition would have got promoted this year as the standard of football has been very poor. We have to pay decent wages to attract decent players and this just is not happening at Wolves(Remember the Premiership? )

  39. stuwolf said:

    no.22-wandering wolf.
    Absolutely spot on,a waist of time adding anything to what you’ve said.

  40. wolveswolves said:

    Same old same old.

    We will now be linked to endless number of players. None of them will sign and then in blind panic Mick will sign a couple of players, hail them as the players to take us up and then leave them on the bench all season.

    On another note why do half the articles on here not allow us to comment anymore?

  41. Steve bull stand said:

    Delighted to hear we have pulled out of these deals because people want too much money. We are going to carry oon doing things the Moxey way - on the cheap. While Albion enjoy the premier league and score goals for fun we can continue to watch sterile football and fail to get success but have wild parties to celebrate how healthy the balance sheet is.

  42. Pertonian Wolf said:

    Newbridge, completetly agree with you there!!

    Ramage is not going to be our only option. He’s noty very pacey either which is what most people seem to want. Lets see how it pans out, but no player should be bigger than the club. Moxey has done the right thing here, he has to make the unpopular decisions to make sure the club has a future.

    Behind you all the way Mick!!

  43. Newbridge Wolf said:

    Southbank, just seen your wonder comment about SEB being a one season wonder, as you saw Keogh was, your knowledge of football is truely amazing. Any comments such as that are sure to win people over to your case. I’ll put this so you understand, IS ANYTHING GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, THIS IS WOLVES, NOT REAL MADRID, AS SOON AS YOU WAKE UP AND REALISE THAT THE HAPPIER AN INDIVIDUAL YOU WILL BE THROUGH LIFE. ITELL YOU WHAT I’LL SHELL OUT ON A TICKET FOR THE CLUB THAT FREDDY GOES TO SO YOU CAN WATCH THE ONLY PERSON YOU SUPPORT

  44. john said:

    No, Jiwal, dont confuse ambition with greed and that means not paying players more than they are worth, unless you are chelsea of course.

    We spent the last 10 years or so doing that under SJH and where has it got us?

  45. Chizza said:

    Berra would be a quality signing hes young and a great centre half

  46. Kent Wolf said:

    Forget the greedy bugger then! Dont start sacrificing our low-wage policy, just to keep this bloke happy!
    What ever happened to “speculate to accumulate?
    You pay crap wages,you get crap players.
    Simple as

  47. Darlo Dingle said:

    Lets be honest - he’s got too much pace to be a Muppet signing.

  48. stu said:

    well its a shame the lad wants to much money but at the end of the day if you want good players you have to pay the wages or you will have to settle for medicore/poor players i.e neil collins

    I wonder how much breen/craddock are on a week then? at least we are not going back to the days where we pay stupid wages for rubbish players, do you remember simon osbourn and steve corica?!!!

  49. southbank barmy army said:

    NEWBRIDGE..i don’t give a stuff where you sit, who you share a ticket with or anything else. but you really are very annoying, preaching to others what they can and can’t say or do. each to their own and everybody has their own opinions and ways of supporting.

    just because you put yourself in the minority of saddos who thinks muppet mick is super and moxey is god, don’t be suprised when the majority disagree with you. we don’t try to impose our views on you, and if you don’t agree with our opinions fair enough..so don’t read our posts or bother replying to them.

  50. stu said:

    also 31 shut the hell up, not everyone can get to games but I bet he gives the team a lot more support than you, are you the moran who sits behind me in the southbank because you sound like him!

  51. dave clent said:

    Wake me up in August, I am bored to distraction with this second rate money grabbiing club and its over paid and over hyped employees. No doubt these primadonnas are in exotic locations whilst I am stuck in Halesowen putting a shift in

  52. Molly Knew Mick said:

    i’m going to find myself half-agreeing with Newbridge…which is about as good as it’s likely to get.

    Any fringe Premiership player who truly wants to sign for us should be prepared to take our wage offer and then re-negotiate after a season when he’s proved how indispensable he is.

    As to other matters, MM is clearly (and sadly) going to be with us in August so my hope is that we continue to sign the right players at the right price and with the right attitude so that when we have the right manager by Christmas, he’ll have a good squad to work with!

  53. baggy 1 said:

    Quite right
    Mad MM will bring in more S Wards and Co
    You will never go up loosers

  54. london wolf said:

    michael 30 - spot on my friend !
    all these knee jerk posts are ubelievable based on such little information about any deal.
    south bank barmy army - you’re the e&s internet editors wet dream, constantly wetting your panties about anything they choose to report.

  55. wol1877ves said:

    here we go again no ambition you have to pay if you want better players watch out non league teams wolves are coming to get your players because they are on the wage structure we want to pay.if this keeps happening im dreading next season.oh well at least we still have collins

  56. Chris R said:

    People here seem to have a memory of which a goldfish would be proud! Didn’t we just have 10+ years of paying through the nose for so called big name players? Remind me exactly where did this policy get us? Just because you pay big money and big wages, it doesn’t guarantee success and we’ve proved it in the past.

    I’m amazed MM is letting Kyle go though - I thought he was old of his ex-Sunderland Golden boys!

  57. Brian swede wolves said:

    As we all should know we will not pay the money cos Moxey wants it all WE NEED TO SPEND PAY PEA NUTS WHAT DO YOU GET ??????????? MOST OF OUR DEFENCE

  58. wolveswolves said:

    55) It’s Jez’s idea, send him back they can pay his wages till August and then he’ll be back permanently

  59. Matt said:

    Once again - most of you are talking rubbish.

    I thought you would’ve learnt your lesson, if we have a wage structure, just imagine what other players would think if someone else comes in on a lot more. We want players who want to play for Wolves. I agree with the club!

  60. southbank barmy army said:

    never ever thought i would say this but..i’m now beginning to see why this club is stuck in the championship and probably will be for the next 25 years..

    BECAUSE MOST OF IT’S SUPPORTERS ARE BRAIN DEAD IDIOTS AND I’M ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF IT. MOXEY’S PUPPETS WHO JUMP WHEN HE PULLS YOUR STRINGS. BUNCH OF GUTLESS FOOLS WITH NO AMBITION..OH JUST LIKE YOUR BELOVED MUPPET AND MOXEY.

    WELL STUFF THE LOTTA YA COS I’VE HAD ENOUGH!!

  61. Arnyking said:

    Dont judge the signings until the season starts, i didnt want mcarthey to stay but looks like we are stuck with him, so lets just wait and see,

    I’d still like to see somone like gabbidon at wolves but again i think he is over the wage structure up the wolves and mick you’d better get it right this year its costing us fans a fortune to watch the rubbish youve been serving

    Still Good Luck

  62. Newbridge Wolf said:

    52. My point exactly, thank you

    60. Now you know how we feel having to read the endless drivel you force on us, byebye byebye!

  63. muppetout said:

    ON THE WOLVES WEBSITE; FREDDY MADE AVAILABLE FOR TRANSFER,

  64. Poor little dingles. said:

    you lot have so much to say about very little….

    CHAMPIONS…

  65. The Wolf said:

    We are just a better than average championship club,maybe its time we all excepted this.I can’t see us going up automatically next season,the league will be tougher than this season.Read Roy Keanes book on MM,enough said!If we had serious ambition,ruthless decisions would be made but they won’t.If we do scrape promotion next season,would MM be the guy to establish us in the premiership?Would he be given enough money (20-30 million) to be given a chance?Would he make the right signings?Think the answer is NO,NO and NO!

  66. A bull till i die said:

    Freddy eastwood has been made available for transfer. Mick has put him on the transfer list. its official check out our homepage he states that it has not worked out for us. I hate this muppet in charge of my beloved club. He really winds me up. looks like s, ward is staying then
    Why can he not see that s,ward, s,elliot and co are not good enough why dont he put themm up for transfer.

    Ffs mick get out

  67. stu said:

    I am not a big fan of either moxey or mick but we all are going to have to put up with it

    Jez Moxey although a total tool is at the end of the day a great business man although the way he deals with the public leaves a lot to be desired

    Mick hada great first year and I bet there is not one wolves who didn’t not like him after the great first year we had because lets face it we could have easily been relegated if hoddle was left in charge, MM is a very stubborn man and regardless what anyone says he will only listen to the people close to him

    Finally I suggest instead of constantly bickering with each other lets face facts Mick will be here for at least another year so all you moaners please shut up and lets get behind the club

  68. Boots 'n' Braces said:

    hahaha goo on southy, let ‘em have it son.

  69. morganonthefrontfoot said:

    Now somebody’s gone and upset the caps-lock kid, shame on you all!

  70. Poor little dingles. said:

    Let’s have a look at all th pathetic wolves comments starting with this idiot……

    # southbank barmy army said: Apr 7th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    baggieboy..of course they did you proud..they lost!!! to have won would have really bucked the trend wouldn’t it.

    wolves will show you how to win at wembley in may. we’re past masters at it.

    goin to the premier the mcarthy way..in style of course..oh yes.

    ha ha ha BRILLIANT!!!

  71. maltawolf said:

    So now its official Eastwood can go because he might have scored the goals that may have got us promoted.Ramage is not coming because he can defend.We wait now with baited breath whilst MM&JM scour the market for young hungry shift workers,was the lessons of the eighties not learned team full of kids and cast offs plummeting through the divisions.

  72. Poor little dingles. said:

    Mmmm… and he says above stuff the lot of ya!!! This next post was a month ago!!!

    # southbank barmy army said: Apr 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    YES MIGHT AS WELL TRY AND MAKE IT A HAT TRICK. 3 APPEARANCES AND 3 LOSES.

    BUT WOLVES ON THE OTHER HAND WILL SHOW YOU HOW IT’S DONE..WHEN WE BEAT STOKE OR WATFORD IN THE PLAY OFF FINAL.

    GOIN’ TO THE PREMIER LEAGUE THE MCARTHY WAY..IN STYLE OF COURSE..OH YES.

    Err… oh no my friend…

  73. wolf-brainer said:

    i think ramage has had talks with QPR who are willing to pay anything, so maybe thats why he is asking if clubs can math his wage demands.

  74. NathanWolves said:

    Freddie Eastwood has been transfer listed. No great surprise but not the best news to be honest.
    How much you reckon we can get for him £2mill????

  75. Poor little dingles. said:

    1 more from this idiot before i go onto another IDIOT… Before the BC (Last ever one) derby…

    southbank barmy army said: Apr 15th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    OH SHUT UP FOR PETE’S SAKE..

    YOUR GONNA LOOSE..DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE ON!

    STROLLING INTO 6TH PLACE THE MCARTHY WAY..IN STYLE OF COURSE..OH YES.

  76. Rugby Wolf said:

    35 Brereton: spot on,with you all the way.
    60 Southbank: bye bye

  77. Poor little dingles. said:

    Last one i promise…

    # southbank barmy army said: Apr 7th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    HELLO, NUTTER ALERT.. JESUS HE CHANGES HIS TUNE QUICKLY DOESN’T HE.. HE WAS DREAMING OF LIFTING THE F.A UP IN FRIDAYS REVIEW..NOW IT’S WINNING THE PLAY OFFS. AND YOUR NOT CERTAIN OF MAKING THOSE YET. OH DEAR THE BAGGIES HAVE FINALLY LOST THE PLOT ( ALONG WITH THE F.A CUP ) SAD REALLY.

    BUT I HOPE YOU’LL BE WATCHING WHEN WOLVES WIN THE PLAY OFF FINAL IN MAY..WELL LET’S FACE IT WE ARE THE ONLY BLACK COUNTRY TEAM WHO WIN AT WEMBLEY.

    QUE SERA SERA, WHAT EVER WILL BE WILL BE, WE’RE GOIN’ TO WEMBLEY, QUE SERA SERA..

    THE SOUTHBANK..BARMY ARMY..GOIN’ TO THE PREM THE MCARTHY WAY..IN STYLE OF COURSE..OH YES.

  78. Rugby Wolf said:

    Bye Freddie, oh and by the way take your fan club with you.

  79. Spooks said:

    Next Year Team

    Murray/Hennessey

    Elokobi Craddock AN Other Little

    Jarvis Henry Edwards/Olofinjana Kightly

    Ebanks-Blake Keogh

    Subs: Gray

  80. Spooks said:

    Stephen Carr, Stephen Wright, Peter Ramage In (Free)

    SEB, Kightly, Hennessey Out (15m)

    Relegation Beckons

  81. abdonwolf said:

    71. Poor little dingles

    What is your point, or is it just you fancy a gloat?

    Don’t really understand why you are posting this on a thread about a Wolves transfer target?

    All so childish, one set of fans supporting an average championship side one set supporting a good one - big deal!

    We’re both tiny clubs in the grand scheme of things, and before you have to say it, yes Albion are better than Wolves!

    Grow up!

  82. Next season said:

    We can’t pay over the odds for a guy for 3 - 4 years while playing in the the Coca Cola.

    Good call by Wolves.

  83. Boots 'n' Braces said:

    poor little dingle.
    seems to me you’ve just proved a point there son, barmy army was as positive as anyone else in his own way lol.

    so who let who down is the next question?.

  84. Breretonwolf said:

    Southbank, I agree that many of our fans are brain dead idiots. You are one of them.

    We are stuck in a rut beacuse we sack managers every two years, which means we have to start again each time.

    We are stuck in a rut because we have been willing to pay over the odds for ex-prem players who have no feeling for the club, and only want one last pay day. (Incey, Cameron, Irwin, and a few others being the exception.)

    We are stuck in a rut because those overpaid prima donnas get us to a position where promotion becomes a possiblity, realise that if we went up they would be surplus to requirements, and so take their foot off the gas. (We have all seen it.)

    We are stuck in a rut because we think we are the only club with any history, and ought to walk the league because we “should.”

    We are stuck in a rut because players come here and are booed and pilloried over every mistake.

    We are stuck in a rut because those players that are booed and pilloried become afraid to try anything different because they will gain more abuse if it goes wrong.

    We are stuck in a rut because a manager comes in and wants to try something different by blooding younger, hungry players instead of has beens, and is “Super Mick” first season and “Muppet Mick” the second, because he does what he said he will.

    We are stuck in a rut because some fans want instant success, and are not willing to give the manager the three years he asked for to finish building the team he wants.

    We are stuck in a rut because some of our fans can’t realise that young players have good games and bad games as they gain experience. As time goes on the good games become more, and the bad games become less.

    We are stuck in a rut because some of our fans see only one player, and if he doesn’t play they boo others that play instead, and wonder why the other players underperform. (Can’t remember his name, but he used to score a lot of goals in lower leagues.)

    We are stuck in a rut because some of our fans give encouragement to opposing teams. When other teams come to the Mol, they know that if they can stifle us for a half-hour the fans will get on our own players’ backs, and cause their heads to drop.

    We are stuck in a rut because, when the manager is planning for the long-term future of the club, some of our fans only see today and the last match.

    Let’s get out of these ruts, and look medium to long-term. When we go up, I want us to stay up. Love or hate Mick McCarthy, he will get us up. If we allow him the time he is building a side that will keep us up.

    By the way, I was disappointed to see that by buying players at Championship wages we are only getting monkeys or rubbish players. I happen to think we have got good value from SEB, Kights, Henners, Murray, Jarvis, Foley, Gray, etc. they are not earning fortunes, but they are playing for us. I happen to think there are defensive gems out there at the right price and wage structure. They need a little patience and nurturing though. (Something certain fans at our club are unwilling to give them.)

  85. Happy_baggie said:

    Abdon 77 - don’t set your self up….

    Firstly - we aint a championship side now - get over it…

    Secondly - imagine that - a fan of another club posting on your site - whatever next.
    I hope one of your fans doesn’t post on ours now..

    Thirdly - yes of course he is gloating…. after months of banter (and worse) did you really think we were gonna just walk away now ?? I supose you guys would have given us a friendly round of applause and quietly walked off..

    Bottom line - we have the ammo to pop in for a chuckle when we want - if you don’t like it…..

  86. mac said:

    Here we go pay peanuts and you get monkeys dont rate him though, he may be better than we got but that aint hard to do is it

  87. wolvo said:

    Buy Cheap get Crap, Ward x2 Potter Collins Est

  88. london wolf said:

    60 - southbank barmy army

    once you’ve gathered your toys up, and have put them back in your pram, please can you turn the lights off and close the door on your way out.

    thanks !

  89. Poor little dingles. said:

    abdonwolf:

    Sorry all grown up bloke… i was looking through some old posts on WBA site and thought it would be FUNNY to see what people had to say!! So sorry i must still be in a daft mood from Sun… and yes we are better than wolves..

    P.S Did you really not see the funny side???

  90. Gold'n'Black Wolf said:

    30. i am referring to this post about Ramage not the rest of the season.
    do any of you no what hes wage demands were and once again the answer is no.

  91. Bridget & Tony said:

    Isnt it fairly obvious that all Wolves had to do was ask the players agent what sort of money he would expect BEFORE the club took it any further?

    Sounds like more “spin” again, to keep up the fans interest!

  92. Poor little dingles. said:

    79. Also i didn’t really look at what it was about… so i thought i’d check it out… ha ha ha brilliant…

  93. rob hindmiarsh said:

    poor little dingle

    why don’t you go on the blues site and pinch some more of there nicknames and try to pass them off as albion twit( got my vowels mixed up should be an a)

  94. wolfie said:

    Great headline by the E & S with only 1 problem
    To pull out of a deal you have to be in it in the 1st place, been confirmed from INSIDE thet the only contact has been a letter from an agent (which was also sent to 15 prem clubs & the rest of the CCC clubs) - pretty standard practice

  95. Gornal Wolves 08 said:

    i’d prefer to use players in house next season rather than buy more potential rubbish. surely the young guns little, jones, gleeson, gobern etc would blend in better with the current squad.
    we need to lose the deadwood and re-introduce the youngsters who served us so well in mcarthy’s first season. now freddy’s going there must be a strong case to bring liam hughes into the first team squad. joint top scorer with rosa in the reserves, but liam was loaned out twice! bury and stafford rangers. keep seb and keogh upfront and liam on the bench in freddy’s place.
    but with this manager who knows what’s going to happen, i don’t think he’s very interested in our youngsters to be honest.

  96. southbank barmy army said:

    BRERETON..because that must have taken a while to write i’ll give the courtesy of a civil reply.

    whilst i agree with much of what you said, my point is simply this..we’ve heard it all before mate..to many times for comfort. and now the season’s over..i cannot believe the change in attitudes. yes of course support the team i have done..as a boggie fan proved with some of my earlier posts on their site (funny that) but the manager is rubbish.

    give us a manager with good pr skills and good man management capabilities, a good motivator of both fans and players. in short a leader with drive, ambition and a clear vision of how we will achieve promotion and survival in the premier league. do you honestly believe mcarthy has all those traits, and is that man.

    i totally agree on the has beens on high wages, no we don’t want that back at all. mowbray found himself in similar circumstances to mcarthy at the end of last season. the so called stars leaving and a major rebuild to do..ok he had more money to play with but look at the team he built. not overly expensive and not all household names either. he got the albion promoted as champions at the second attempt. macarthy failed miserably to deliver anything in two attempts. rest my case now, but with mcarthy in charge we won’t be going anywhere i’m afraid. the difference between us is this..you tow the party line no matter what..but me..i say it as i see it, ok i upset some people sometimes..so what!! free speach is a pain ain’t it.

  97. Dave said:

    I cannot believe how narrow minded Wolves fans are on this site.

    You can’t have several players on £2-5k/week then bring in some premiership hotshot who reckons he’s worth twice what everyone else is on.

    It’s called a wage structure. It’s there for a reason (for the good of the club). And it helps us avoid making stupid business (and football) decisions.

    It wouldn’t do much good for morale either.

  98. Tamwoth Wolf said:

    84. Brereton Wolf

    fantastic piece i agree with u wholeheartedly, I wish that some fans who comment on this blog where as rational as you.

    Lets face it if the world ended it would be Mick McCarthy’s, Jez Moxey, Steven Elliot, Steven Wards or Neil collins fault according to some fans.

  99. Gold'n'Black Wolf said:

    89.”crappy little baggie” we could all go on about past comments.
    1.we will have won this division by christmas.
    2.we are going to win the FA cup.
    3.we will thrash wolves at Molineux.
    the list goes on but too many to post.
    point made now crawl back under your rock.

  100. terryCHAMPIONbaggie said:

    99bluenwhite,
    1,we did
    2we almost did,
    3,we did,
    BOING BOING WEEM IN THE PREM

  101. Baggy 1 said:

    Idiot 99
    what league are you in and staying unless Mad MM takes you down.
    What league are we in

  102. Pedro Enrique said:

    Brereton,you are an out and out bore,,do you ever go to the Wolves.Intant success,,how long SHOULD we wait for instant success,,do you know what Rammage asked for,,you sound like Mr Moxey consulted you,,you seem to know a lot more than the rest of us..You mention players coming to the Wolves for one last pay day,,who did you mean,you said Incy,Cameron,Irwin and a few others were the exception,so who did you mean..Iff your good lady wants to buy a decent telly, or a half tidy frock,do you make the poor woman go to Oxfam.You have no ambition,and I suggest you go and watch Brereton Social on a Saturday afternoon,and leave the rest of us to look for our instant success that we have been waiting years for..PS stop using so much ink,,and buy the girl a decent frock..

  103. keith said:

    i am a newcastle fan born and bred,ramage is one of the worst and slowest defenders ever to play for my team,not good enough for the championship never mind the premiership,keegan sussed him and wants him out . do not buy him.!!!!!

  104. wolves boo-boy said:

    96. Southbank im with you all the way ‘cardboard cut out’ fans falling for the yearly spin. Wise up you are being for mugs.

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