Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Wolves v Albion tops derby list
Football’s biggest rivalry is not in the Premiership but between Albion and Wolves, according to a new survey of fans out today.
The Black Country clubs have the most keen rivalry of any other football neighbours south of the border, followed by the ‘Old Farm’ pairing of Ipswich and Norwich, the survey of 6,000 supporters revealed.
Liverpool and Manchester United came in as the third biggest grudge match.
The ‘Football Rivalries Report 2008’, produced by The New Football Pools, owners of Littlewoods, combines an indepth survey of all 92.
League clubs in England and Wales and a statistical analysis of club records and histories, to uncover the reasons why fans harbour such bitterness and jealousy towards each other.
Baggies’ and Wolves’ fans were deemed to have the most intense rivalry in the report, with one in four fans from both clubs claiming that their rivalry went much deeper than football.
Manchester United are still the club fans love to hate – with 12 per cent of fans of English teams seeing the Old Trafford club as their main rival.
Arsenal fans felt that Manchester United were a bigger rival to them than local foes Tottenham Hotspur, while United overlooked their neighbours Manchester City, in favour of picking Liverpool as their biggest competitor.
The rivalry between Cardiff and Swansea came in at fifth while the North East fans of Newcastle and Sunderland were only ranked ninth in the list.
Jon Sheehy, marketing director for The New Football Pools, which also own Vernons and Zetters Football Pools, said: “Football is based on competitive rivalry between clubs, regions and fans.
“A surprising aspect to our report is the extent to which ‘local’ rivalries are in decline.
“It’s a sign of the modern game, with greater media coverage, when fans are overlooking their near-neighbour as rivals, in favour of a club which plays over 200 miles away.”
The survey said the top 10 biggest rivalries in our game were:
1) Albion and Wolves
2) Norwich City and Ipswich Town
3) Liverpool and Manchester United
4) Portsmouth and Southampton
5) Cardiff City and Swansea City
6) Aston Villa and Birmingham City
7) Sheff United and Sheff Wednesday
8) Bristol City and Bristol Rovers
9) Newcastle United and Sunderland
10) Brighton and Crystal Palace
Albion and Wolves fans have your say below
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I’ve always thought that the Wolves have clung to our coat tails a bit because without Albion they wouldn’t have a genuine rival..Not too long back the rivalry between Albion & Villa was far bigger. Remember we were playing Villa in Cup Finals in the late 1880’s and really didn’t go head to head with the Wolves till the mid 50’s…Wolverhamptons closer to Wales isn’t it?….
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you idiot! clinging on to our coat tails? you and walsall are both rivals but as your in our league your our rivals although walsall are a bigger club!
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1.
Read back your comment and see how foolish you look.
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1.
clown
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How many times have we got to tell you wolverhampton IS NOT IN THE BLACKCOUNTRY CHECK ALL THE MAPS and print it if you dare.
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2.
Walsall are bigger than Albion? Hahahahahah, typical thick dingle! But then again you are from Gloucester…muppet!
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1 and 5. go home, u’ve both made fools or urselves! wolverhamptons more in the black country then
west bromwhich
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5. And since when has Smethwick bin in the Black Country? You’re situated in the worst part of Birmingham…Check your post code.
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Just checked it for you in case you have’nt got the intelligence…B71 4LF.
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5. baggie9
Just did as you said and downloaded a map of the Black Country.
Here is the location:
http://www.blackcountryobservatory.co.uk/maps.asp
They list the Black country as:
Dudley
Sandwell
Walsall
Wolverhampton
The Black Country Museum says…
Today the Black Country is made up of most of the four Metropolitan District Council areas of Dudley, Sandwell, Walsall and Wolverhampton and the collections and displays are derived from throughout these areas.
The industries included:-
* coal & coke
* iron & steel
* locks & keys
* nails
* chains
* ships anchors
* glassware
* beer & stout
There you have it from the horses mouth!
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I’ve always grown up with Villa being our main rivals. I’m a relatively new comer but me and all my mates have more rivalry towards the Vile scum as we have hardly played the Dingles (barring last season) in the last 5 years! And I can remember this same debate a while back, Wolverhampton didn’t join the Black country until around 1995/6? West Bromwich (not the Hawthorns) has always been in the Black Country.
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An Albion fan claiming rivalry with the villa, all the years i have lived in a big villa area i have never met one who looks upon the albion with anything more than we look at Walsall!!!
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To traditionalists the Black Country is the area where the coal seam comes to the surface – so West Bromwich, Oldbury, Blackheath, Cradley Heath, Old Hill, Bilston, Dudley, Tipton, Wednesfield and parts of Halesowen, Wednesbury and Walsall but not Wolverhampton, Stourbridge and Smethwick or what used to be known as Warley.
The region was described as ‘Black by day and red by night’ by Elihu Burritt, the American Consul to Birmingham in 1862. Other authors, from Charles Dickens to William Shenstone refer to the intensity of manufacturing in the Black Country and its effect on the landscape and its people.
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baggie 9.
do you actually know whether you are coming or going
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baggie9:
Just checked the maps,Wolves ARE in the Black Country, yo ay!
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I think all the above comments just go to prove that this IS the No1 rivalry in the country… couldn’t agree on the colour of snow.
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dingles you are getting a bit worked up so to calm you down ill agree with you wolverhampton is in the blackcountry and father xmas, the tooth fairy jack frost are real people and wolves are going up.
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You are partly right abdonwolf but that’s not the whole story.
Yes today those four areas (inc. Wolverhampton) make up the Black Country. But the emphasis is on the word ‘today’. Historically Wolverhampton was never part of the Black Country, in fact the people of Wolverhampton at the time didn’t want to be associated with it. I’m not sure of the year but it was the council which re-classified the boundries so that Wolverhampton joined the Black Country. This is
because of the small but nevertheless present tourist industry which the Black Country enjoyed.
So basically yes Wolverhampton is in the Black Country but historically it isn’t.
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2, 3, & 4….Oh dear…sooo easy to wind up. I have in my comic collection a wolves division 4 programme that quite clearly states Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club(1986) Ltd…by my reckoning that means you haven’t actually won anything unless you count the 3rd & 4th Division oh, and the Sherpa spare brake pad cup…….as for GloucesterWolf…you couldn’t get far away and quick enough from Wolvo could you???…now that I understand…
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Now I can see why we were top.
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Good knowledge 10 abdon.
Is it not a fact that 1 of the albion stands is officially in BIRMINGHAM!!!!?!!!!
Does anyone know when this seasons biggest derby has been re-arranged to yet?
Come on you wolves!!!
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brighton and palace bigger than Arsenal Tottenham?
Norwich n Ipswich bigger than Man U Liverpool lol
who’s made this up
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Sherpa
Check your records sonny. Wolves are the 8th most successful club in the UK.
The only midlands club higher is Villa in 6th place.
Your measly nine trophies put you in 16th place.
We have a far more illustrious history than you lot, oh and on top of that a much larger fan base.
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21 – whats your favorite programme – the antiques road show ??
Do you still watch your football in black and white ? – try living in THIS century.
8th most successful – LOL !! Whos 7th – the royal engineers ??
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14, You beat me to that comment!
Snow is white surely?
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21?that statement is total tripe, how many trophies av u won not including the texaco cup etc,
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“WE ONLY HATE WOLVERHAMPTON”
I do love these debates, brings the best out in all of us.
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21. You forgot to mention ‘ a much worse team’
Or isn’t that important to you?
Bigger fan base my a**e !! Who cares !!
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14, Happy
spot on mate…..although the dingles are in our shadow a bit now
at least when we get promoted, they’ll still have chaventry and leicester to play…..oh and Derby,
and maybe even Walsall!
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23 – depends… and stop calling me shirley.
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11.
How thick are you pal? Albion – Villa used to be the main rivalry in the Midlands, ask anyone who knows anything about either club and they’ll tell you the same thing!
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11. Quite right. I have many family and friends who support Villa. Their biggest rival they will tell you is Birmingham City. But after that they would say its Wolves over W.B.A. Down to the fottballing pedigree my son.
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Gloucester wolf, don`t rise to it son, they love it when you do that, think of a funny retort instead of throwing your toys out of the pram
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21.Swaningaboutwolf.
Can you read?..”WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS FOOTBALL CLUB (1986) LTD…Which means Wimbledon have won more than you….When you’ve gone into receivership, liquidation as often as you lot…your debt’s are written off as are your former clubs successes…Up the Bhatti’s…Boing Boing…Don’t tell me…. you were ONE of those 3000 that used to watch them in the mid 80’s…Oh yes we believe you (not)…
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30.Canus Lupus
Excuse me! Do you lot play “fottball” in Birmingham then?…say no more.
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Since when has sandwell town been in the black country? Since you made up your own district thats when, what a joke. Just cause you’ve got a marginally better team than us for the first time in 10 years theres no need to crow about it. Wolves have the better pedigree and always will have
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It does not seem to matter what the article is about the subject always seems to follow the same path.
Personally i would hate to see a world without Wolves, i feel sorry for clubs who have no real local rival, lets face it these blogs would be boring without the spit and banter of both Wolves and Albion.
Although barracked for his point, comment number 1 does bare an element of truth to it, although the coat tail analogy was a little provocative.
My father in law and a loyal Wolves follower clearly remembers there being little rivalry between the clubs 50 years ago. I think due to the similar paths the clubs have taken in recent years, and the amount of years spent in the same division has served to heighten the feelings towards each other (i am not saying this is a bad thing).
Also due to the emergence of commuting into work, we now more than ever have fans living or working in other clubs areas. Many fans view their local rivals according to where they live and the amount of rival fans they know!!
Personally i will always view Wolves as our main rivals and the first fixture i look for (if in the same division).
Yet my mate who lives in Tamworth views Villa as his, it is all relative!!
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With regard to the Black Country location I see that Ordnance Survey are considering changing landranger sheet 139 from ‘Birmingham and Wolverhampton’ to ‘Birmingham and Black Country’ this will allow the sub-region to be clearly identified and should put an end to this disagreement on who is in it and who isn’t.
People have mentioned about historic aspects and boundary changes but was West Brom in Worcestershire at one time?
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32.
A lot of stuff on here is opinion, but your remarks in 32 are incorrect.
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No matter how much the albion and wolves fans bicker and moan about how much they hate each other
We do love the derby days
come on the baggies
and wolves fans
Were just to good for you!!!!
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I am a Brummie by birth – I once lived in Walsall for 8 years and I now live in staffordshire – and I couldn’t give a stuff if neither team is in the black country… In what way does this matter now ??
As is proven above, the boundaries for areas change constantly and if global warming increases we will all be following Inverness – so GROW UP and discuss football not postcodes.
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For info:
Post codes mean nothing. They are Royal mail’s system only. For example, Bridgnorth has Wolverhampton postcodes, and its in Shropshire. Wombourne has Wolverhampton post codes, and its in Staffs.
Secondly, both West Bromwich and Wolverhampton used to be in Staffordshire, prior to the boundaries being changed, and the formation of “The West Midlands”.
Thirdly, historically, Wolverhampton was not considered to be in the Black Country, and didn’t want to be.
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Whatever it says on any web sites or history books, the Black Country debate is a spurious one as ther’s never been an area officially defined as such. Therefore we may both be in it or more likely neither of us are in it.
The Albion -Villa rivalry as with Villa -Blues and Albion-Wolves depends where you’re from. As a lad in the sixties in Smethwick, Villa were the enemy, I knew loads of Villa fans but no Wolves fans. Kids nowadays probably know as many so called Man Ure fans as Albion, Villa or Wolves.
The bigger club debate is another dubious one. How do you measure it? Perhaps Duckworth Lewis could come up with a sliding scale. According to some of the contributors here, Newcastle are bigger than Liverpool because they have bigger crowds. Does a cup win in the 1890’s rate the same as a cup win in the 1990’s. Perhaps what matters most is where you are currently in which case we’re both in the shadow of Blues and Villa, and indeed Wigan. Sad but true.
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35 makes a lot of good points. With out these games the football season would not be as much fun! The seasons we didn’t play each other due to the yo-yoing i really missed our games, although i did get sick of the sight of you last season due to us coming on the end of, shall we say, some unfortunate results.
I cant wait for the next one. Lets hope the biggest rivalry gets to be in the Prem soon!!
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42 I agree with you completly i can not wait to see west brom play wolves in the premiership and we should both hope we both go up so the rivalry could have more value say a relegation battle where we both need to win to survive that would be a great atmosphere
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I enjoy the rivalry like most, but there is one thing both clubs are failing to do and that is establish themselves in the Premiership.
Both clubs owe it to the fans to make sure we both cement a place in the best league in the world and show people just how passionate and serious we take our football in the Black Country.
Until then, only we care.
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Sandwell Massive
That is the most sense you have ever made with a post, I was reading and waiting for a sarcastic dig at Albion. Fair Play and i’m in total aggreance.
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14. Happy
The colour of snow, as we all know is Yellow!
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I think everyone has missed the point of this article but have proved it to be correct!!! Greatest rivals in English football are Wolves and Sandwell (Sorry against my morals to use the correct name!)
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who cares about wolves….i dont. its all about that vile scum from down the road, they are the REAL rivals and the majority of baggie fans from birmingham agree.
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22) Try living in this century?
Is this the century where west Brom are a whopping
6 places above a greatly under acheiving Wolves team?
And i read last week this is your ‘golden generation’. It must be good to have such
low expectation and be so easily pleased.
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10) Brighton and Crystal Palace?????
They have got to be kidding!
Can someone explain this one to me.
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smethwick are in warley u clowns warley is in the black country wolverhampton is a city
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Abdon it’something to do with Eagles and Seagulls. They were promotion rivals one season ages ago.
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Happy Brummy Saddler Staffy Baggie, it all makes sense now. We understand why you defend the other Saddler, you know, the mad one.
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17 & 32 .SherpaVanDiv4winners
We were knocked out of the ‘Sherpa spare brake pad cup’ but did much better in the ‘Freight Rover Trophy’…
anyone remember the chant…’and we’ll really bowl ‘em over when we win the Freight Rover!’
Ah, the good old days!
Simon :)
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I don’t hate Albion at all so I must be in a minority.
Having said that I am delighted they are falling down the league. Delighted they screwed up against Derby at Wembley last year. Will be rooting for Bristol Rovers in the FA Cup quarter Final. Am allergic to Tesco carrier bags. Think Paul Robinson is a thug who should be banned from football. Find the Hawthorns to have a most unpleasant smell. Turn off the TV every time Adrian Chiles comes on.
Apart from that and a few other things I haven’t got time to write or that would not be printed I think they are fine.
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39. Sorry HB. We won’t talk about post codes if it distresses you.
My Zip Code is 74080 by the way.
Simon :)
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I do partly agree with post 1 being 40 years old I come from the era when Villa is our local derby .
19.. Our ground now stands in Sandwell the rainbow stand (now the east stand) used to be partly in Birmingham but when the borders etc where changed donkeys years ago the whole ground stands in the Borough of Sandwell
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Baggie Boy spot it depends on age we did not play Wolves for a few years when they plunged to the 4th division and I grew up playing and having a lot of success against the Vile.They will always remain the biggest derby for me also it can depend on where you work and live.I live in Stourbridge which has a mix of Vile and wolves very few Blues fans,but i worked with a lot of Vile fans so hence the rivalry.Younger fans are different it has become Wolves and Baggies big derby.
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34 Check your facts the Albion have had the better team for some time, apart from your one season in the Prem, when did you finish above us?
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You have to smile at the Dingles, don’t you? They’ve kidded us for years that they’re the top Black Country Club, but these results show otherwise.
1 point is awarded for the team who finished 92nd in the League, and 92 for the Champions (or, in 1888, 12 points, for example). Liverpool win by a long way from ManU. But more importantly, Albion are in 11th all-time spot; where are Wolves, though? – languishing in 16th spot. By my reckoning, if Wolves should happen to finish 10 positions above the Baggies for the next 24 years, only then will they be able to say they’re the biggest in the Black Country. Don’t bother researching the FA Cup, either, Dingles, because we beat you hands down in that, as well – and how many years have you had in Europe? No – sorry!!!
1 Liverpool 7,327
2 Arsenal 7,258
3 Everton 7,209
4 Manchester United 7,087
5 Aston Villa 7,060
6 Newcastle United 6,735
7 Manchester City 6,681
8 Sunderland 6,608
9 Tottenham Hotspu 6,519
10 Chelsea 6,458
11 West Bromwich Albion 6,334
12 Blackburn Rovers 6,215
13 Derby County 6,185
14 Sheffield Wednesday 6,181
15 Sheffield United 6,099
16 Wolverhampton Wanderers 6,096
17 Bolton Wanderers 6,031
18 Middlesbrough 6,030
19 Nottingham Forest 5,942
19 Leeds United 5,942
21 Birmingham City 5,918
22 Leicester City 5,860
23 West Ham United 5,797
24 Stoke City 5,616
25 Burnley 5,360
26 Southampton 5,268
27 Preston North End 5,153
28 Portsmouth 4,946
29 Huddersfield Town 4,775
30 Charlton Athletic 4,734
31 Coventry City 4,637
32 Blackpool 4,570
33 Fulham 4,568
34 Norwich City 4,227
35 Luton Town 4,127
36 Ipswich Town 4,095
37 Queens Park Rangers 4,074
38 Notts County 4,058
39 Cardiff City 3,879
40 Crystal Palace 3,860
41 Bristol City 3,856
42 Bury 3,848
43 Barnsley 3,830
44 Grimsby Town 3,813
45 Oldham Athletic 3,728
46 Hull City 3,628
47 Millwall 3,603
48 Plymouth Argyle 3,551
49 Watford 3,291
50 Bradford City 3,236
51 Swansea City 3,157
52 Brighton & Hove Albion 3,117
53 Reading 3,047
54 Port Vale 3,038
55 Rotherham United 2,967
56 Brentford 2,898
57 Swindon Town 2,881
58 Leyton Orient 2,811
59 Bristol Rovers 2,794
60 Chesterfield 2,567
61 Tranmere Rovers 2,404
62 Bournemouth 2,340
63 Walsall 2,304
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59.that may be but where still in the same division.
and we might only get 16000 more fans but look where you are in the league and where we are proves who as the bigger fan base.
nothing to be proud of being a yo-yo team.
but all that’s about to end when you miss out this season and all start cryin’
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Geography means very little here. The fact is we hate each other with a passion, can anyone tell me where it all started. I must say I love it and I don’t want the sh**e to go up as we will have nobody to hate in our division. yes, at the moment they are doing better than us, so what! I still worship the ground that is coming to you you baggy bass drinkers.
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I’M black country through and through but albions ground is on the birmingham border says it all really west birmingham albion.
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Palace and Brighton goes back to the 70’s. I know that whenever they play each other the Police are kept well busy. Millwall often get involved just for the dust up too.
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i love this derby ! Why wud people try n ruin it sayin its villa or walsall or even disputin the fact that the other team isnt even in the blackcountry.
Take this rivalry away n both teams seasons, especially wolves due to out awful form.. wud be so much more borin.
I for 1 cant wait for our tie to be decided. If albion beat rovers it will probly end up bein in may sumtime maybe last game of the season!!
YouWolves.
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50.
Way back when people from the south london area used to go down to Brighton in the summers and always cause mass brawls with the locals, and it has carried into football and the fans of today have not forgotten!
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This is fun innit? Roll on the day when we can play this game with us both in the premiership. Mind you i’m 54 on Sunday so I’m a bit anxious. It’s like my dad is better than your dad. Up the Wolves (but not holding my breath!)
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to be fair we should stop the pathetic bickerin, as nobody will ever win. 3 facts to leave every body with. dont forget, u cant argue with FACTS.
1) Wolves are the 8th most successful club in the United kingdom, i.e more successful than WBA.
2) Wolves are a bigger club than WBA.
3) Wolves have a larger fanbase than WBA
Yes WBA have a slightly better team at the moment, but I still cannot believe that the brummies STILL argue over these FACTS.
oh ye one more thing i never understood, why are we the dingles when WBA got voted the worst dressed fans in the country. somebody please explain
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No. 50 Palace and the Seaweed (as Palace know them) has something to do with Alan Mullery…
Anyway, whats all this with postcodes? I have two CZ-602 00 and A-1180, both would still be in the Habsburg Empire if it weren’t for the first world war :-)
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The biggest rivalries are:
1. Utd / Liverpool
2. Utd / City
3. Utd / Leeds
4. Spurs / Arse
5. Villa / Birmingham
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Up until recent years Wolverhampton was in Staffordshire-and THE local derby (and for many still is)was Wolves v Stoke.
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no westham millwall???? who invented this farce.regarding the palace brighton rilvary ,it was invented to deflect palace fans from hating there local rivals millwall,being a family club like palace they looked to invent a rilval less scary then wall,who better than a sleepy seaside town like brighton,no one takes it serious,and if you new how much they went on about charlton you would see my points.
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The Baggies would love the Villa to be their rivals it’s true, but they mean nothing to 95% of Villa fans, the biggest rivalry is Villa V Blues,if you have ever attended one of those games you would know nothing else compares.
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As a 42 year old Baggie the Villa is the team I would dance naked around Stourbridge ring road if we beat,
Wolves are like the embarrassing uncle at a wedding,you want to beat them but feel sorry for their oversized dingle brains.
Villa are the anti-christ and I booed Luke “seal” Moore onto the pitch last week.
Saunders McNaught Morley.
Never trust the Vile!
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No 60 re Europe I think you’ll find that Wolves actually pioneered the competitions with its floodlit matches against Honved etc. Also if you care to check the record books we also reached the UEFA Cup Final in 1972, something the Tesco Boys have failed to do. Finally if you are such a big club why are your attendances smaller than ours at the moment when you are playing such ‘great’ football and by my own admittance are better than us currently.
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I think deep down every WBA fan know Wolves are a bigger club than them, and we will always be more respected in football.
However at this moment we can’t deny Albion are a better side than us because they are.
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Couldn’t agree more with Happy Baggie. Lets just accept that we hate each other and stop splitting hairs about post codes. Did some research before I typed this. If people are going to try to quote facts and figures, the only thing important is WINNING things, whoever remembers a runner up? So on that basis I checked my facts on the WBA official website. For this exercise Prem=Div1 etc. This what WBA have WON, one Division 1 title (1920), 2 x Div2, 2 x Div3, 5 x FA Cup, 1 League Cup. That’s a total of 11 competitions. Wolves have won 3 x Div1, 2 x Div2, 2 x Div3, 1 x Div4, 4 x FA Cup, 2 x League Cup, 1 x Sherpa Van, 1 x Texaco cup. That’s a total of 16. Now lets take out the Mickey Mouse stuff and just look at Div1 (Prem equiv), FA Cup and League Cup. Albion = 7, Wolves = 9. So as far as WINNING is concerned Wolves have the better record. On top of that when did Albion ever appear in a European Final, but lets not go there because Wolves did not WIN that one (had to lever it in though!!) Also lets look at the last time either club won a MAJOR trophy, WBA 1968, Wolves 1980. So that’s the hard facts I’m afraid and it looks like Wolves win hands down. However in the debate regarding who is the bigger club, lets look at recent attendance records, at the start of this season Albion’s home attendance did not rise above 20,000 until the end of September, since then a slight improvement, of late it’s been about 22,000. This is the so called pundits “best side in the Championship” and all that rubbish we keep hearing, and up to this last month Albion have been top of the league, top of the league and you cannot sell out, some big club that is. Lets face it the facts speak for themselves. I rest my case M’Lord.
Regarding the re-arranged game, I was speaking to the ticket office at the Golden Palace (Oh sorry forgot to say who has the better stadium??) the other day. The lady there said there’s a problem with the police not wanting it in midweek, something about all those un-employed Black Country people from Sandwell drinking all day causing trouble in our beloved Staffordshire. Anyway they are talking about both clubs re-arranging a weekend game to accomodate this fixture.
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Note to charlartan & scumwall fans…
WE ONLY HATE BRIGHTON
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How do you see Villa as your rivals! You lot make me laugh, sandwell town so good they made it up!
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stuart hill as a 42 yr old may i take this opportunity to tell you to grow and get a life you are avery sad person. a credit to your team no doubt
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47 years old, always been baggies,that geezer 62 made me laugh, he must have been up all night to come up with that,fan base, wolves fill 2 3rds off wembly ( burnley v wolves sherpa 88,841 1987/88) and cardiff dont think sandwell lot could do that,playin some good stuff though but still cant get them in. see you in playoffs,,,,,,lol
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how can you take this serious! brighton and palace,two of the nicest fans on the universe,brighton is a seaside town that bothers no person and palace is a club that trundles along happily aimless.everton liverpool not in there,the hatred that is millwall and the hammers,rember clubs like brighton and palace have a high percentage of geeks willing to cram this polls to the max.
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note to crystal palace fans you invent brighton because its safe and naff,who really takes you two serious,safest and blandest game on the planet.
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our hatred for all things green should be in top 3.
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kind of loses its creditabilty with the number ten choice.
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i think blackpool and the preston hatred runs deep and long,who done this poll,some of these teams are laughable.wolves live in the shadow of us,no poll changes that.
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I’ve got a headache !!!!!! Can’t we all just get along ????
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of course we can.
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62 – Are you single, ugly and boring?? It must av took you ages to research that!!! You’ve missed the whole season looking for that!! All I care about as a Wolves fan is our success and I havew WBA mates who jibe and bicker like everyone.
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wolfie2468.
Couldn’t have put it better, these topics bring out the morons in force. Even other peoples morons it seems.
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derby fan here,we and the red scum forest not included???but two clubs with no history like crystal palace and brighton get on it.who on earth makes this lists,and why does crystal palace not hate london clubs.
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Millwall Pete , why don’t you jog on back to watching your football factory DVD . Going Down Bye Bye League One!!!
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79. Southhampton Wolf.
Your address tells everyone in the Black Country all they need to know…Wolves play such good football…you moved!!!!….Priceless..
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Ye I dunno where palace/brighton came from. No 72 where u from, kent. This is a fans forum not a glory hunters page! Why are people on about borders and reigons. Blackcountry is Dudley,Sandwell,Wolverhampton and Walsall. I think the whole of Sandwell should be known as West bromwich to put club on map! Who outside midlands has heard of Sandwell, yet they all know where West brom is. Survey is right though, premiership blackcountry derby please.
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I don’t see it as a rivalry. More like a walkover!!!!
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m28 red Man United v Liverpool thats a big derby game in Devon and China not to the people of Liverpool or Manchester
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you have to laugh at the last one on the list,but the first one is spot on i detest the dingles.
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stick to hating forest,who gives a hoot about derby round the black country.
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No 70. Those are’nt “FACTS” those are statements, by you! Look at 62 who actually bothered 2 do some research! By the way would of thought the derby would’ve been re-arranged by now. Is this one actually gonna be on telly this time?
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Message to all Wolves fans – don’t rise to the Albion fans’ attempts at winding us up. Remember, cream usually rises to the top but at the moment it’s all the mushed up biscuit from the bottom of the cup! Albion are winning the battle but we are winning the war. They have always felt inferior to us hence the constant clinging to things like season points totals and their ridiculous claims of them being a bigger club – it’s VERY sad.
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WOLVES V WEST BRUM IS THE BIGGEST RIVALRY, SIMPLE AS.
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102 Cameo.
Were you the one with the big red posing pouch?
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Lads, you cant take this lot seriously. Ask fans of any other club who they think is the bigger club. I guarantee you Wolves come out on top.
Cant believe we even need to discuss this.
Albion, famous for wearing baggy shorts. Says it all really.
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i 8 dingles… weve won more leagues more times than sandwell town, more league cups and only 1 less fa cup, not too mention sherpa vans etc, and had more european competition participation so as far as accolades go wolves win by a country mile.
… and i thought it was called the black coutnry given the smog in the air from all the industry?!
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and who thought that west brum were a bigger team than wolves? Wolves’ success in Europe in the 1950s alone puts us above sandwell town. I remember going to stockholm and seeing a wolves mug alongside some liverpool and Man utd mugs in a tacky gift shop… which i think shows how many other europeans still percieve us, as a big team.
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72 m28 red – crawl back to essex mate & leave proper soccer fans to their dust ups. i am a 3rd possibly 4th generation wolves fan & my grown kids are continuing the faith. now i hate tesco bags, but i do respect them. like us they follow their local team. it never ceases to amaze me how plastic manurine, liverpool & london glamour club “fans” actually identify with their “team”. put it like this, if stockport county had the same history as manure & vica verse then you would be supporting stockport. FACT. & before you accuse wolves legions of worldwide fans, sorry tescos – out of your league here as you aint got any – they cannot, like you, be accused of glory hunting!
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Hear Hear ! Posh !
COME ON YOU WOLVES FANS !
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If you put FACT at the end of a sentence, even if it is a FACT, you just sound like David Brent. FACT.
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blimey, tesco bag trying to sound intelligent – 110 Crappy Baggie. This is a physical/logical impossibilty – FACT!!! wbaresoocerplankton – have a go at that crappy – i will give you till next monday to puzzle out what it says – and you can ask your mates, you know the ones that walk around in a circle intermittently mooing then boinging, all togther now……………
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I am getting a little FACT off with all this TESCO TRIPE.
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blimey, tesco bag trying to sound intelligent – 110 crappy baggie. this is a physical/logical impossibilty – FACT! wbaresoccerplankton – have a go at understanding that, crappy. i will give you till next monday for an answer. you can ask some of your mates, you know the ones that walk around in a circle intermittently mooing and boinging…………
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“m28 red Man United v Liverpool thats a big derby game in Devon and China not to the people of Liverpool or Manchester” …spot on Telford wolf thats exactly right. A rivalry thats been fuelled more by sky sports than local peoples feelings.
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could you think of two more boring pointless clubs at brighton and crystal palace? bar that i agree,but who done this survey?
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the number ten choice!!!!! my ribs are hurting stop!
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A.Cottrell you are so full of rubbish, pick the two areas which west brum beat us on why dont you… you beat us “hands down” on FA cups because youve won 5 compared to our 4 yeah thats a big lead!
of course you failed to mention league wins… either of the top division or any division… where wolves clearly beat you “hands down” nor do you mention participation in european competitions … did sandwell town ever reach the UEFA cup final? or have a golden age like wolves did in the 50s nah of course not i dont blame you for neglecting to mention these salient points i dont think i would if i were a baggy. oh well maybe one day eh.
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Posh Side of Wolvo.
Read my name…You’re an embarrassment to the Black Country….Were you one of the 3000 odd packed into the Molineux during the mid eighties???…According to the Wolves fans I’ve talked to…you lot should’ve been averaging 40,000 cos none of you lot missed a match during those days(when asked)..Where were the “Legions of worldwide fans” then?….Answer:Probably emigrating…. to get as far away from Wolverhampton as possible..”Up the Bhatti’s..at least those brothers cared!!!…
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yes i use the name Boltonwolf but was born in Walsall and went to school in New invention and then Stourbridge before moving up to the north-west.Well, what i want to say is ” WE HATE ALBION SAY WE HATE ALBION”.oh and Bolton :)
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born in walsall,support walsall then
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