Are Wolves really doing that badly or are they only doing so badly in comparison to their Black Country neighbours? writes Albion blogger Jarrod Hill.
While the recent run of form has been poor, they still find themselves just outside the play offs with still 18 league games to go.
Many teams in this division have seen dips in form, in particular Cardiff.
The club have stuck by their man and have seen an improvement in form.
Last season witnessed a new emerging young and hungry Wolves team full of enthusiasm and with a new chairman promising transfer funds the expectation went through the roof.
This may well be the root of the problem as a section of the Molineux faithful are now calling for his head.
Last season he was hailed a hero for getting his team into the play offs but has quickly gone from hero to zero.
Had Wolves been in the same position last season at this stage of the campaign, would the fans have been calling for the manager’s head?
This has all coincided with the Baggies marching onwards and upwards to the top of the table playing the type of entertaining football every fan craves.
Looking in from the outside I cannot help but wonder if this has had a contribution to the way in which Wolves fans are now displaying their collective displeasure at their team and manager.
I am not suggesting this is the sole reason but I cannot help thinking it cannot be helping the situation.
We all look at things relatively and there are fans within every club who will always compare their status to that of their local rivals.
I realise many Wolves fans will give me a verbal bashing for even daring to suggest this could be the case, and many Albion fans will ask why I have even been bothered to comment on the situation.
But I am interested in all things football related and in particular the goings on at our nearest and dearest.
I am one of those fans who realise it would be a boring world without local rivals, and thus I take an active interest in all our clubs.
So are things really that bad, or is it the raised expectation, or is it in part due to the present success down the road, or is it a combination of all these factors?
Wolves and Albion fans have your say below
95 Comments
Problem is the complete contrast instyles, Albion are playing attractive attacking football, even when we were winning it was poor quality stuff with hardly any excitement. When we couldn’t buy a win itw as pretty obvious that criticism was goignt o be levelled at the man who chooses the team and decided the tactics
It’s that green-eyed monster - Envy - again!
Funnily enough, I’ve never been jealous of those in the ‘old gold and black’!
I agree with ur comments and i’m a wolves fan thru n thru…..Nice to see constructive comments from our neighbours rather than laughter….Thanku
Injuries..hello?
If we have a complete team ont he field for a good term we would be still up in the top six.
Albion are certainly having a good season, but they need to keep pushing, plenty of teams have put lots of goals in the net and dropped into third spot in the last few months, ourselves included.
The Championship is a whole new ball game now. I think we will see a lot of changes yet in the top ten. I think some teams inside the top six will not be there at the end of the season. I think West Brom, Watford, Cardiff, Wolves and Palace are certain top six finishers. DOn’t know yet about the other teams. Time will tell.
Style of play has a little to do with it, but winning is everything. If you win everyone is happy, just look at last weekends results. Wolves win and immediately the mood changes, it doesn’t matter who the opposition are - just win. Of course the second result I look for is Wolves and probably vica-versa for Wolves fans, as long as the dingles have lost then life becomes so much more bearable. Attractive football is a bonus, it might get us out of the championship but you need a bit more in the higher division.
You are not doing yourself any favors comparing Wolves with The Baggies. We are more humble, and wouldent compare us self with the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea
It is more to do with MMs bizarre team selections !! Playing central midfielders and strikers on the wing when we have wingers at the club, midfielders in defence, centre halves at left back when we have a left back out on loan - picking favourites when they are obviously out of form (Ward, Bothroyd, Elliot)and destroying the confidence of the one natural goalscorer we have at the club (pre Ebanks Blake) - Freddy Eastwood.
Don’t confuse movement with action (Hemmingway). Running around like headless chooks is not a strategy for winning. From what I read, the baggies are playing positive football with a plan. Squeezing past lowly scumthrop doesn’t convince me that we are past the worst - more like the dead cat bounce. If we don’t roll twatford at the weekend then it will be clear that a new leader is necessary.
Finishing eleventh is not good enough
This article is another blatantly obvious effort from the E&S journalist Baggie supporting clan.
GREAT BELEIVER IN ALL THE MIDLANDS TEAMS DOING WELL, IF ALBION ARE TO GET PROMOTED BY WINNING THE TITLE I HOPE WE CAN HOLD ONTO THEIR SHIRTS SLEEVES AND GO UP AS WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN SCORING FREELY AND THAT HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM FOR WOLVES. TWO NEW SIGNINGS ALREADY ON SCORE BOARD, I THINK WE NEED TO GET A QUALITY CENTRE BACK WITH PACE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH DAVIES, IS IT AN INJURY? KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT LADS.
JAMIE LANYON PARK CORNWALL
You have to remember that we still have parachute payment and money from the premiership superstars we got rid of. We can attract better players and in our case a better manager. The dingles have to make do, just like we did under Megson. You are still not out of it, and are still better now that under Hoddle. Be nice if we both went up as we will desparatly need the 6 points on offer !
3 - disagree, injuries are an issue but its how you deal with them
wolves lost kightly, craddock dropped to 10-12th position
wba lost phillips & miller easily there two best players at start of season and stayed on there run
so yes agree injuries but its how you deal with them mate
Think your spot on.Its a problem accross the west midlands as a whole.were all so close that success of any sort for the other clubs in our region only magnifies any problems at your own club.
UP THE WOLVES!!!!!!!!
Jarrod I think you are spot on. We don’t hate the Baggies but they are our main rivals and a weekend when we win is made better if they have lost. It’s exactly the same for them. They have clearly had a great season so far and that is clouding our thoughts. We are all hugely disappointed at our season but we are three points off the playoffs and it will only take a tiny improvement in goals scored and points gained to have another post season go at the promised land. Mick is getting on with his job despite all the criticism on these pages. Some of it is accurate and informed, some of it is mindless ie we have lost again so sack Mick. His 2 January buys at this moment look good and we have everything to play for. I hope we can at least make the playoffs and go up and I wish the same to the Baggies. Regardless of results, life is just that little bit better when we are in the same division.
Jarrod
Why the extra blog?
“It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.”
Gore Vidal
A fair assesment i’d say. Think it certainly plays a part and always has done between the two clubs, both ways, as we pass each other. Comment 2, idiotic, not been a fan for long then? If at all.
lets face it we’ve seen no entertaining football at wolves this season and thats the reason for the discontent.
if you look at last season MM was forced to play the home grown talent, this season bar the goal keeper they haven’t figured in his plans, they’ve been sent out on loan. these kids are wolves through and through and give that bit extra for the cause. and nobody can tell me the likes of Gibson is any better than our own kids. perhaps thats why Evans has left as youth team coach! whats the point in having a youth system if the managers not going to use the kids that come through
It`s a bone of contention that will
be viewed two different ways,
dependant on allegiance.
In my humble opinion, huge expectation levels are the main culprit for the current mood among
Wolves fans,
not the only contributing factor,
but largely responsible.
When you read these boards before the season kicked off,
nothing, but nothing was going to stand in the way of Wolves
inexorable march to the premier.
Thus far it COULD be another
false dawn,
it`s almost a retrospective of
the Sir Jack days.
Couple this with the unbounded joy
of many of their number when,
we failed at Wembley,
and the subsequent departure of
our perceived “stars”
Then our signing of so many “Who’s”
a bottom half of the table was
a cert,
what fun they would have at our expense, looking down from their lofty position.
I apologise if this post has offended any of the Wolves posters
on here,
many of which i respect greatly,
but it`s an honest assessment.
Oh, and i still think Wolves will
be in the shake up at the end of the season.
Look, its a real kick in the teeth that the tesco lot are doing good at the moment, but that is not the reason the wolves fans are starting to turn. Last saturdays victory aside, we’ve been having a bad run of form and the matches have been, to put it politely, not the best to watch. Plus some of MM’s decisions have baffled certain sectors of the supporters.
All in all, I think its the expectations that are counting against us. MM’s had time to build his team, we’ve had investment into the squad and we’re basically under-achieving. Last year was different because at the start of the season we barely had enough first teamers to put out a first XI, and MM worked miracles with what he had, and some of his signings were revelations (Kightly, Keogh). But this season the signings have flopped and it looks like MM’s miracle touch has faded.
The bottom line is that Wolves fans simply weren’t expecting to be fighting to get back into the playoffs at this point. We honestly expected to be fighting for automatic promotion.
So, yes compared to the albion we’re not doing great, but don’t kid yourselves that it is in anyway responsible for our lack of form.
What???? Never thought i’d find myself agreeing with a baggies fan but you’re spot on old chap!
It really has nothing to do with the Baggies. I personally ain’t got a problem with how they’re doing - it’s not as if they’ve been lucky - they’ve installed a good manager who’s managed to make some inspired signings and their football has been the best in the division. Our problem without a doubt (once again) has been the expectancy levels and the rather strange decisions made by MM. I refer to just one example: Freddy Eastwood goes on a purple patch, scores 3 for Wolves in 2 games, goes away with Wales and scores 2 in 2 for them, so MM thinks this is a great time to rest him, ‘cos he “looked” tired! Bad man-management - everyone knows that when a goalscorer is in the zone, the last thing you want to do is take him out of the team. This one idiotic decision caused major unrest amongst the supporters and virtually destroyed Freddy’s season. Having said all of that, it seems that all managers go thru a stage of “losing it” and maybe, just maybe if we stick with him, he will come good again - looks like he’s made two good signings in January, so let’s wait & see what the next few games brings - I for one think that we’ll be on the up again!
Albion = Good manager
Wolves = Dire manager
it ay difficult.
I’ve just heard that Mad Mick had his intricate team selection paperwork stolen when they broke into his car.
If anyone should find an upside down top hat with lots of crumpled pieces of paper in it , can they please return it to the Molineux.
Strongly disagree that MM as had enough time to build his team, from where we started from with almost no team and no hope to a young team where the only way is up, most of the players mm as bought in are now worth more money than when he signed them, how many wolves managers have done that.
albion are much bigger club with much better players and wolves fans cant admit that
never mind its great to be a baggie
boing boing
WBA forever.
Good comment, if a little wasted on here. With the exception of oldgold4ever, the Wolves fans that have commented on this are the ones that actually read the articles not just the headline and have the capability to deliver a considered opinion. The ‘who?’ and ’sinking ship, you’re crap ha ha’ brigade with the obvious exception of our moronic friend above would have difficulty grasping the meaning of the article, as he/she has proved. Wolves don’t have a monopoly on the brainless brigade, we have some too but as Wolves booboy would no doubt point out your massively superior crowds mean that you’re bound to have many more. Just another way that you’ve bettered us.
Interesting blog Jarrod although I don’t agree with “all” of it. Myself as a wolves fan has never looked on at albion with envious eyes. The season we as wolves fans don’t like talking about when you overcame the 10 point deficit, I was never envious of albion, more dissapointed with ourselves.
Albion are top at the moment, rightly so, playing attractive football with players I can honestly say never heard of before coming to the baggies (tex, koren, gera, bentner etc..)
I do not think you are adding to our woes, I blame MM and his decision making that has put us in this position (although it’s not “that” bad). I think the difference between the teams is TM is playing players in there correct position and can see any problems in the team and then rectifies them straight away, MM is stubborn and plays players out of there position just to fill a gap. He was quoted as saying after the scunny match “playing henry centre mid has allowed me to play 2 wingers”, that means the 2 centre mids that have been playing haven’t been doing a job, we have known this for the past 2 months!
Also albion have spent an awful lot of money this season so you would expect them to be there or there abouts.
Wolves will do OK this season, playoffs for certain, i now would be happy with a top 4 finish!
cheers
19 Wolves#1 - excellent view point and I totally agree!!!
yea im really jealous of the blue and white tin shed,i don’t care if wba win or lose there just like tamworth town to me they mean nothing,the best thing in tamworth is drayton manor and west brom it’s firkins cakes yum yum or is it yam yam.
I believe the main difference between the teams is that Mowbray has played an attacking style and McCarthy has been cautious and negative. Last Saturday’s team selection seemed to suggest a change of approach by Wolves however and maybe he might be prepared to go for it a bit more. With Ebanks Blake, Keogh, Eastwood, Kightly, Jarvis, Edwards etc I think Wolves have at least as good if not better attacking aoptions than Albion if McCarthy is only prepared to be more positive. If he does then all Albon fans need to polish their wing mirrors cause the gap between the teams is going to get a lot smaller very quickly.
I may be an Albion fan but I don’t hate the other local teams. I would like success for all of clubs, not just The Albion,so if you call yourselves supporters do just that and get behind your teams. To keep changing the manager is suicidal!
We musnt lose sight of the negative influence that so called Wolves fans have on the team. This season the boo boys have become a force again and frankly I wish they would either stay at home or go down the poorthorns and wreck their team spirit too. Yes the football has been frustrating at times, as have the selections (largely driven by injury) but this team wear the gold and black!! Doesnt that count for anything anymore. Supported Wolves for most of my 53 years, have never and will never boo. Complain in the pub later often, but only ever boo the opposition. No one ever got better by being told how c*** they are. How anyone expects Jay B to get back on the pitch and play with confidence after the shameful derision he endured at the palace game is beyond me. So my message to the negative boo boys, dont want you, dont need you and certainly wont miss you. Get behind the lads, act like a SUPPORTER and who knows it might change. UP THE WOLVES !!
There is no doubt that this season, is so far not living up to expectation for the gold and black masses. This is partly down to the fact that expectations are always higher at bigger clubs. When small clubs over achieve there is always a tendency by there supporters to see everything through rose-tinted specs. That’s why they over exite themselves, even when they don’t appear to be running away with the league despite “playing the kind of football that every fan craves” with “better players and a better manager”
I do not think as Wolves fans we should ever be envious of Albion.
Although a large traditional club in their own right we will always have a bigger fanbase and larger starture within the game.
The problem is after raising expectations by over exceeding last season in the football produced and position achieved Mick has subsequently failed to build on this. Which is a great disappointment.
I’d also say that Wbaforever has hit the nail on the head, I was thinking the very same a while back. At the start of the season, if we are honest we all felt that we were going to be in race for automatic, whilst the other lot were going to do exactly what we did when we came down, waste the parachute money, drift down the league and have to re build from scratch and then they’d be a few years behind us. Oh dear…..
It is bad !
One deserve win since 10.nov.
Can anyone tell me if mark davies is still a wolves player?
Nathan, you have surprised me, last week you were all for Muppet Mick,s removal now you seem to have reverted back to the in Mick we trust brigade. so we beat lowly Scunthorpe last saturday, but we have the next 2 games against Watford, lets see how we do against them in the cup and the league! I myself do not hold out much hope i,m afraid, I will give him to the end of the season then if we are not at least in the play offs (minimum requirement) then he should be got rid of fll stop!! I see no ambition at all from either the management or the club itself, nor indeed from Steve Morgan, yesterday we heard that there will be no more signings during this transfer window, what about 2 new central defenders with a bit of technical ability and PACE? this area has been neglected and when we come up against the better teams of this division this is where we will suffer. Until I see a really marked improvement from the club then I will stick to my guns and say that come the seasons end we will be in the bottom half of the table. I hope that things will improve, BUT 1 WIN DOES NOT MAKE A SEASON!!! like I say lets see what the seasons end brings then if as I think that we will be a bottom half team then Mick must go.
SORRY NATHAN THOUGHT THIS WAS WOLVES BLOG, BUT STILL STAND BY WHAT i SAID RE MM
We have done badly………….sorry no excuses.
All credit to Albion and Mowbrey,I have always believed that by scoring a lot of goals is a surefire way to get out of this division.Personnally I believe that Wolves have as much goal potential than WBA,but unfortunately the manager perserveres with his safety first philosophy.On saturday he seemed to revert to the attacking policy successful at the backend of last season,whilst we created chances and looked very potent up front,the old defensive short comings where there for all to see.2 mobile central defenders are a priority,hopefully before the end of the transfer window
34 Rich
I do not think it is remotely possible to be jealous of ANY rivals,
it is however, possible to get very
p***** off when expectations were the exact reverse of the present
situation,
and if my previous comment has been misconstrued as to indicate
jealousy, then that was not my intent.
Just one other thing Rich,
indeed you do have a bigger fan base,
regarding a larger stature within the game, i would say our respective past achievements and
histories follow a similar path.
All the best mate.
It has been documented so many times before this season that it has become a boring subject but for one final time, these are the reasons why there has been booing and disenchantment from most and probably all at some time or another this season at the Molineux and at away grounds.
1. McCarthy continued to play his favourites even when some were sadly out of form.
2. Players were consistently played out of position therefore creating a square pegs-in-round-holes situation and it failed, dismally!
3. Reserves who are available to replace players when either out of form, injured or suspended were totally ignored which went against the fans wishes.
4. McCarthy brought in new players in the summer, 1 of which was a striker, Freddy Eastwood who had a decent scoring record when at Southend (which obviously impressed McCarthy or he would not have bought him) but then criticised him publically and dropped him for several matches thereafter. A case of bad man-management which McCarthy has a history of!
5. Sent Jody Craddock to Stoke on loan and indicated he would not be further required at Molineux, which was a decision which came back to haunt him and we all know what happened next?
6. From September onwards, most fans were becoming aware of the teams frailties and called for changes to made which fell on deaf ears as far as McCarthy was concerned. He proceeded to dig his heels in and refused to accept he could have been wrong! This continued until the transfer window opened when he brought in 2 new signings which either by coincidence or by luck brought us the win at Scunthorpe!
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As for WBA having any effect on Wolves performances, I would say absolutely no! Wolves fans everywhere like to see the WBA results but to say those results have played any part in the performances of Wolves is nonsense but it does make for a good argument!
So Jarrod, the answer to your question is NO but as regards WBA, good luck to you. If you gain promotion and a serious collapse of form can only prevent you now I think, Mowbray will no doubt be looking to strengthen yet again by “splashing-the-cash”
to ensure a swift return to CCC football does not happen yet again. If only WE had a manager with the same footballing outlook as Mowbray - and wasn’t he also a defender in his playing days? Interesting contrast!
Astle is wot?
Dream on old chap! Wakey Wakey! Yes i must admit that 4 the last few years we have been the weaker of the 2 teams and the league has shown that. But listen up here DERRRR brain im so so sorry but your little express TESCO base aint never been a big club, unlike the MIGHTY MOLINEUX! So as for us all we have to do now is sit back and wait for our young guns to mature and the only way then will be up.
An addition to my previous letter.
7. The tactics and playing style so far this season have been boring, negative, slow and unproductive particularly when compared to last season, why? Ask McCarthy for no-one else has the answer, only him!
38 Latvia, I am not the wolves blogger!!! Just a wolves fan with an opinion!
I do not want rid of MM (yet) and never have! Neither am I a in mick we trust bloke. I want what’s best for the club as i’m sure all wolves fans do but getting rid of MM now is silly!
As a supporter of the second biggest club in the Midlands, Wolves, I am indeed jealous of our local rivals. Villa are doing well in the Premier League and I wish we were there with them.
As for expectations being too high because WBA are doing well in the Championship, I don’t necessarily agree. Did WBA fans want Megson and Robson sacked because of what local rivals were up to? No, they wanted them out because the football was crap and you were not achieving what you expected. In that respect, we are exactly the same as WBA were just a couple of years ago.
What makes me more sick is when you see clubs like Wigan, Fulham, Blackburn and Bolton surviving and even doing well in the Premier League. They had a cash injection from a sugar Daddy and it paid off and they have built their clubs. Wolves had a similar, if not larger cash injection and we have stagnated, yet we still regularly get bigger crowds (both home and away) than the aformentionned clubs. For me that is the jealousy. What have we, as fans, done to deserve constant failure. Maybe if we only got 17,000 gates we would do better?
20 odd years of frustration with parents and grandparents banging on about how good we were only adds to the frustration.
Expectation? The day I expect my team to lose is the day I’ll stop going. I expect them to win. I expect them to strive to improve. Otherwise we may as well call ourselves Walsall and settle for life in the bottom 2 divisions.
For the first time on this blog, i’ve heard sensible, constructive comments from both sides of the fence. Not just the brain dead comments that come from so called wolves fans and the petty (just cus we’re doin better than you) comments from so called baggies fans. I personally think the midlands needs both wolves & wba up where Villa are, which believe it or not lads, traditionally thats where we’ve always been. I’m sick of the london, northwest & north east clubs. We need all the midlands clubs back in the top league and doing well. Good luck to the Wba ! But cumon you wolves !!!
Interesting….
I don’t think Albion can be blamed for wolves woes - however pleasant it would be to think so..
If we were to have a negative effect on them, then surely it would have happened last season given the results then.
This season their undoing has been entirely of their own making, from the selection policy and management style of MM to the unrest and over optomistic expectations of the fans.
The decision not to strengthen at the start of the season was baffling and has affected them during times of injury and loss of form (the area we have be strong in).
Lets just see where we are at the end of the season
Steve Morgan
(well, i bet thats what he is saying anyway, and I think its pretty wise)
Iagree totaly with comment 6 about Micks bizzare selections coupled with his arrogant attitude to the fans
To be honest not all Wolves fans are against Mick. He has made arrors and deserves critisism. He has realised this critisism has bought well in the transfer market and I think we have turned a corner.
Some of the idiots trying to get Mick out fail to see that he could actually turn it around.
See you in the Prem Jarrod.
Hi, the blog was not whether the Albions success has contributed to Wolves poor performances, but rather to the way Wolves fans have viewed them.
I do not beleive our performances would in any way effect the Wolves players, but an element of the fan base must feel a little envious, and therefore view their current situation relevantly.
And yes i said SOME fans.
I am very impressed with the comments on this blog today, fans quoting Hemmingway and Vidal, and to the fans asking why this blog has appeared, i wrote it due to it being a bit of a slow news week and to keep all you bloggers happy!!!
All the best.
Of course they are. Kites was injured against your lot and he singled handedly was papering over MM’s crack(s) - what a nasty thought! Without the only player in our side who would definitely not be out of place in the Premiership, MM - as detailed in far too many posts from Wolves fans in recent months - has exposed himself (for what he is).
I don’t think so, Jarrod. Of course, the Baggies success and attractive football aggravates things a bit, but the main people to blame are the Wolves fans, including me.
Last season we had low expectations and then we got carried away by better-than-expected results. We ignored the negative side.
In particular, last season Wolves had only the 13th-best GD in the Championship. If the League table had been based on GD, Wolves would have been 13th!
After the gung-ho attitude of the youngsters last season and a lucky League position, we got illusions about how good we were. This season reality has come home to roost.
This season we had unrealistic expectations and so we are all in the dumps. It’s our own fault for wearing rose-coloured spectacles last season and during the off.
Bully the leg end?
You are a very deluded person. You need to get real or else set up a private kennel with 47 Ralph dog, where the sky is green and you can watch re-runs of What’s my Line and Juke Box Jury. Like the Albion, Wolves were big in the Fifties. Like us you didn’t do much before and you’ve done even less since. It’s like pretending Britain is still a world power. YOU NEED TO LIVE IN THE PRESENT.
As an Albion fan, I’ve been thinking, how would we feel? What if the boot was on the other foot? Roles reversed.
It would rub salt in the wound, but there have got to be many more obvious factors for the unhappiness around the “Golden Palace”.
I would never belittle the history of Wolves, so why do some Wolves fans belittle our history. The two clubs are very similar which is why the Wolves have taken over as Albion’s main rivals in the last 15 years (from The Villa). Some Wolves fans do little for their clubs with their childish comments which does at times sound like jeoulosy. It wasn’t long ago Wolves had the upper hand and no doubt one day it will happen again, that’s football
I have to disagree Jarrod, although the failure of our rivals may please the odd ‘dingle’… I’ve never held that opinion. Quite honestly I’ve never enjoyed the rivalry, a bit of banter is fun but I take the game for what it is; Entertainment.
And at the end of the day Wolves haven’t been entertaining for a while now. That’s why I’ve been demoralised recently.
I’d be over the moon if all of the Midlands clubs could be in the premiership, even the baggies
When WBA were in the prem I was cheering them on to stay up because like Birmingham before them, I respected how well they had done to get that far.
It really annoys me to see the sad little people on here taking digs at eachother to try to polish up their own situation.
For example, one guy above mentions how ‘baggies are a bigger club and better’. Of course, if you look at the big scheme of things, Wolves are a much bigger club with a bigger history BUT, WBA are better at the moment and history counts for nothing.
So lets just keep our snide comments to ourselves and enjoy watching the guys on the pitch put the ball in the back of the net, or more likely for us at the moment, try.
43 Scott:
Are you after the job of Wolves blogger?
What a well written, well thought through comment.
Nice to know not all Wolves fans walk along scrapeing their knuckles along the ground, just a very small minority.
I would also like to add that Loyal Cannock Wolf seems to be mellowing just lately.Have they finally sorted out his medication?
Onwards & upwards, Wolves & Albion for the Prem!
18 WBAforever - couldn’t agree more you are spot on!
Its all part of the cycle of football, sometimes you are up sometimes you are down. Of course you don’t like it when your nearest rivals are on the up, as a Baggies fan I hate it when Wolves are on the up but thats the way it is. We are taking the mick now (no pun intended )but you will sooner or later. The clubs are very similar in their history and standing in the game, we actually have a similar fan base, if you want to dispute that then you can but prove it. Remember we are your nearest and greatest rivals, for half of our fans our greatest rivals are Villa or Blues. Lets keep the banter going its great. We have no effect on the players of Wolves but we have an effect on the fans, thats obvious. You will have your day I just hope its not too soon.
Was Groucho Marx thinking of Mick McCarthy when he said the following:-
“He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot!”
I hope you dont mind me coming in here.
Personally i think woves will have a great second half of the season.
Just a little patience required.
I dont buy into this West Brazil Ablbion theory.
I still think they have a soft undebelly and will lose a few games yet.
As for my team Stoke,just carry on underestimating us.
We have lost the least amount of games in the league (5)
We have added to our squad and with a decent strike partner with fuller could even go as far as winning the league.
Potter - 64.
Firstly, no one is underestimating Stoke - you are a good team and playing really well. Whether you can sustain it remains to be seen as you did this last season and then dropped out the playoffs in the final weeks - however i think you will def be top 6 this time.
A lot of Albion fans, me included have not been very complimentary towards Stoke - but this is only aimed at your style of play, not your ability to win games.
Your suggestion that we will lose a few games is bound to be right - all teams will lose a few, however we will win more than we lose and I think even most stokies will admit we are looking likely promotion candidates.
Some good comments. What I would say is that the league is a poor one. Albion have lost nearly as many games as their larger neighbours. They can score and play good football but are poor at the back. Their fans have also had digs at Mowbray!
As for Wolves. We have played poorly, played favourites and players in their wrong positions, loaned out quality youngsters, cannot score and had injuries but are still in with a shout of automatic and certainly the play offs. What I would say to Albion fans is that you need to not get too cocky as teams like Palace and Stoke are well capable of catching up.
wolves in top 6, haaaaaaaaa haaa
63 Why is someone using my name? I put Hyphens between the words, for gods sake some people are so pathetic. And that Includes ASTLE IS KING, Bigger club indeed…
WOLVES HAVE LONGER MORE COLOURFUL HISTORY THAN ALBION, BIGGER GROUND, WE ARE A CITY UNLIKE WEST BRUM. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANNA GO TO WEST BROM? THE FACT YOU GET RUBBISH CROWDS WHEN YOUR TOP BACKS THAT UP..All this aside, you play good football, though you are prone to crappy defence.
Let me just re-itterate 63 I am for MM as manager, he’s got experience, And you are an imposter! DONT USE MY NAME AGAIN YOU FOOL.
UP THE WOLVES!
64 Nice one Potter, cheers for beating the brummies 3:0!
No.43 and No.45 from Scott…..SPOT ON sir..!!
I do not think that the success of the Baggies has really got under the Wolves fans skins, it has been the team selections and tactics ( or rather lack of them..) that has had most folk up in arms.If MM cannot see what is wrong as 20,000 others can..that says it all.Fair play to the Baggies, Mowbray had his initial doubters but has now got his team playing atractive, attacking football which produce GOALS….something we are STARVED of at Wolves..!!! The balance in the Wolves team is not yet correct and I feel it will be next season before it can be settled..if MM takes action and LISTENS..!!!
Hmmmm - 2 different LCW’s…
Now which is the real one…
63 quotes Grouch marks in a humourous way - its well written, the spelling is good and its not nasty or thretening in any way.
Then there is 68 who also claims to be LCW.
He posts the usual “we’re better than you” stuff - he thrives on the fact that Wolverhampton is a city (well done), he types in capitals to show JUST HOW ANGRY he is, and he thinks Albion have a “crappy” defence.
Oh and in 69 he thanks other teams for doing what his team can’t do - beat us.
So - who is the real LCW ?? Gotta admit, I’m stumped.
Sick of this childish banter, Lets hope we both get up and show these, London teams ,But in the end its stii about Money
DID YOU KNOW IN THE 1880S WOLVES WORE BLUE AND WHITE STRYPES AND THEY EVEN WORE RED AND WHITE LIKE THE POTTERS.ALWAYS LOOKING UP TO THE BAGGIES.
Wolves fans trying to compare their club to Albion is like Albion comparing themselves to Brazil. Baggie fans are too humble to do that.
The comments above suggest a deep feeling of envy towards Albion that Wolves fans will not admit at any cost. Instead they come back with the old “weem a bigger club than yow” comments, which mean absolutely zilch.
Long may our dominance of Black Country football continue. bragging rights lie firmly with Baggie fans and have been for several years now.
The level of expectation says it all. If Albion do not go up automatic. That will be seen as a major failure. Wolves fans are clinging on to the slim hope of reaching the play offs.
In Mick we trust. He’s doing a fine job IMO.
Agent Venus has defected.
Local derbies & rivalries is what football is about…but at the end of the day, position in the league along with playing attractive football is the clincher in anyones books….ask any team in the Prenier whats more important…a local derby or playing in the best league in the world….errmmmmmmm.
At this moment in time, the boggies do have league position & I have to say it, are playing exciting, quality footy…BUT….
I think wev’e had our blip & even when we were riding high, we were doing this without producing exciting, entertaining & quality footy. The last 2 1/2 months have been more than poor…BUT, we are still knocking on the door, still in with a shout & being on the edge of the playoffs for this amount of time can only point to better times to come, hopefuly with better football & better results…SO, beware boggies, youv’e stil got the butterflies & injuries to endure & its a looonnnng way down….
Got to say….I think it would be heaven to have US & the tesco’s in the Prem along with Villa & Brum, just think of the atmos at those games.
You boggie supporters do, at times, talk some sense…but then are let down by 1 line idiots who claim that their club is bigger (25)….*shakes head*…& then he puts his name as Astle is King….I think a good man like that would be turning in his grave 9f someone used his name to sign off such idiotic comments.
Come on Me babs,
The futures bright..the futures ORANGE…N BLACK
to all wolves ok so we (albion)aint ever won 4th div 3rd div and sherpa vans trophey better histeryn lol
It’s all well and good slagging off each others histories. Yes Wolves are bigger, yes wolves have a lot more fans, yes wolves have a better history, but hey fellow wolves fans, we’ve got to hold our hands up and say, albion are a better club and a better run club. At least albion fans get recogition for their support from their board, moxey gives us squat. 5 years since i last missed a wolves game home or away, all i’ve had off moxey is, for standing in a hailstorm at chesterfield, is a free ticket to a derby county game at home to introduce a friend to the club. Albion get gifts from their sponsers T-Mobile, offen free travel.
Yet our fans dispite being trod on turn out in better numbers than albion, despite albion being top, imagine our support if we were top! 22.000 for a team top of the table is poor.
the sole reason is because of were the albion are, if they were say 14th and we were 10th then you would not hear a peep, accept of course from the south bank week in week out telling everybody who will listen how much they hate the albion.
We should close the other three stands and just call the ground “the south bank” because only they count.
The letter the other night in the E&S asking what do you do to be a boo boy-summed up the feelings of a lot of wolves fans-brilliant!
25. much bigger club at the moment but when it comes down to winning trophies and competing on the big stage wolves nor wba are big clubs anymore.As it stands fan base wise wba will never compete with wolves no matter how well they doing.Fact villa are the only club bigger than wolves and probably always will be.
Fair play to the acknowledged best team in the league! I’m not jealous and hope they go up. It gives us motivation to improve. Other Wolves fans seem to feel the need to express their frustrations in a more infantile and less thinking way. West Brom are their Scapegoat or target; something to hit out at blindly. If we had a couple of useful defenders and played players in their correct positions we might give WB a run for their money.
Just a little note. Bobby Robson, when he played for Albion, Used to come to Molineux when time allowed to watch Wolves play. Mind you, we played attacking football with two wingers! Out of darkness.
81 Debenhamwolf - you’ve touched a nerve when you mentioned TWO wingers
Wolves have always been known for wing play fast attacking etc and most of the clubs success was down to this over the years
Last season we played some good stuff that had defences nervous - WHY? because we had Kites right wing and Mc Indoe left - which meant that we had routes to goal and were not afraid of going at any team
We lacked in a better defence, a natural leader in midfield and a natural goal poacher at the time - and this is probably why we couldnt finish the job last season
Instead of a major overhaul in defence, subtle additions of a midfield general type - man managing Mc Indoe instead of just getting rid quickly - In our view, we would have had a force to be reckoned with had we done this - we seemingly went slowly sideways!
What happened was MM let an influential wide man go easily and proceeded to become the “tinkerman” of the Championship
S Ward a young lad brought in as striker now asked to play left wing/ wide left - very quickly showed he was not up to it BUT was plain for all to see a round peg in a square hole - Not personally his fault, but cant have done his confidence any good!
Centre half’s ala N Collins made to play left back - each game drifting in and out of the left back slot (out of position) and caught out by opposition wide men
Last season saw many fans hailing a new centre half partnership of N Collins and R Edwards as a possibillity - this season sees us magnifying the faults of N Collins - a lad struggling to play at left back
Most of this now well documented, but the reality of it is that whilst MM “tinkered” with his squad and pursued a budget squad based on bargains;
TM at the Albion saw the club “wheel and deal” the personalities that were starting to declare their wish to play anywhere at a higher level and so JP got rid - but on his terms, allowing TM to purchase players without too many limitations - EG: Curtis Davies was loaned out with a price tag and a suitable replacement was brought in - plain to see that there is no “anyone will do policy” reigning at Albion
Whereas Moxey got rid with little or no value and the squad was dessimated faster than a well known burger chain sells burgers - WHY? Lack of planning and control
EG Lescott sold to Everton - did we ever replace him with someone that has a little pace or abillity - plainly no
Whilst we are not saying that anyone should shell out millions just for the sake of it - there is only so much bargain basement players can do and there are only so many “gems” in the lower leagues (and loads of clubs competing for their signatures)
Yes we can easily blame Mr Hoddle for our deficiencies BUT who allowed Hoddle to do this - Who courted Hoddle even though he turned Wolves down the first time??? Yes the one the only Mr Moxey
The difference between Wolves and Albion is simply down to the influence of the CEO’s and choices made in finance and management personnell
Whilst we accept that Sir Jack had the final say, Moxey gave advice - based on we believe quick fix options and not enough thought going into decisions over a period of years
The rest as they say is history, Wolves had a massive exodus with little value coming back and Albion banked the profit and maintained an attacking flair at the same time in spite of being relegated
As Wolves fans we hope that Steve Morgan will now adopt a more forward thinking approach and if Mr Moxey does not contribute significantly to the Wolves cause then there is only one door left for a CEO that we and many other fans believe should and could have done better for the club over the years!
We hope that there will be a day very soon where Wolves and Albion can have their battles on the pitch in the league of greed known as the Premiership
UP THE WOLVES!!!
the wolves fans think they’re a bigger club than what they are. 10th, thats not bad boys. boing boing. dont see much altering up top tho lads. pleasure to watch.
I think the attitudes of wolves fans and board members alike rubs off on their recent success. Instead of planning ahead, setting out its financial stall, sensible long term plan for the club updating it each season just as we have had to do constantly, re-assessing season plans as a club going up and down more times than a yo-yo with the added relegation survival and play off final defeat thrown in for good measure. Each time we have bounced back finding putting effort in to finding talent like tex,koren and co to get us back up. Where as wolves constantly just await the day they happen to land back in the league they belong. With the oh so old comments that we are a huge club that should regain its former glory! The same goes for sir jack and even new chairman morgan.
I have even worked with a man heavily involved with wolves who also had the same arrogance/attitude not even aknowledging albions great history and this is obvious whats goin on at the club.
The truth is both clubs are big, more than alot of fans even think, with great history, fan base etc and both belong in top flight to stay. But the difference is the game has changed its all money and finance, albion realise this wolves dont! full stop and boing boing!
What proof do wolves actually have as to having bigger fan base. Its like youve got a secret ground of 90,000 you keep top secret from the world and play matches there without anyone knowing. Look at the facts, biggest all time attendane goes to albion. More fans took to wembley goes to albion. Over christmas we have had bigger gates and plus the main thing, our fans are better being regarded as some of the best in the country winning awards and regonition all wolves do is boo as recent weeks have shown.
This blog is so true. The Baggies doing so well and playing great football has to have an impact on the Wolves fans. It has definitely put extra pressure on MM but he is a strong manager and keeps doing things his way . I still think he’ll get Wolves in the play offs again.
Enjoy our misery while it lasts.
Don’t give up hope, the season might end well…there’s still a slim chance of Albion blowing it.
Simon
Nice comment ‘danobaggs’.
Ya team’s top of the league playing pretty attacking football,but FYI us playing boring drivel every home game are averaging more every home game than you lot!!!!!
Check ya gates mate.
We still haven’t had our big home gate matches yet mate.
You lot bigger fanbase -ah,ah,ah.
Ya’d be struggling to get 15K thru the gates if ya was in our postion.
Following Wolves is similar to following England.
Dull football, little success and competely unrealistic (often ignorant) fans.
I am convinced that God is testing me….
As a die hard Wolves fan, I truly hope WBA are promoted.I then truly hope Hayward hangs his head in shame for the lost opportunity he presided over and teh years of anguish he has now inflicted on the loyal following.
Is Morgan any better?
heathhayeswolf. weve never had gates of 15k in that league no matter what position! Notice you didnt have reply to the better fans. Best away support, make more noise, better atmosphere by a mile! We recently had a northern university student asking albion fans to do an in depth survey cuz we were recommended by other fans from all over country as being loud and making hawthorns one of the best ground in the country for atmosphere. So top that! Anyway, this blog is not about that so ye I do think it is having an effect
I agree with whoever said it is going to have an effect because because all the teams round here are so close and the entire region loves football so o course its going to. 1st time ive posted comments on a site its addictive!
Ye its obvious its having an effect just look at micks face at the top of this screen lol!
Noticed no reply as to the better fans from heathhayeswolf. Didnt mention recently we had a northern university student conduct an in depth survey on albion fans as we was recommended by fans from all over the country as to being loud and making the hawthorns as being one of the best grounds in the country for atmosphere. Dont think that can be topped!
Anyway as regards to this blog I think it is having an effect else there wouldnt be so many posts. I also agree with the person who mentioned the that all the teams round here are so close so it adds to the effect it has on fans. Its obvious its doing something just look at micks face at the top of this screen! Lol